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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    I like to think of my brain as one of my more valuable assets...
    Agreed. I rely on my brains for my livelihood. Arms and legs I could do without if push comes to dismemberment, but the brain has got to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Works View Post
    Agreed. I rely on my brains for my livelihood. Arms and legs I could do without if push comes to dismemberment, but the brain has got to stay.
    I wouldn't mind totaly brain debridement, as long as my consciousness stayed in my brain.

    I wouldn't mind being a floating brain.

    I'd hover about, issuing orders, smearing brain juice on freshly cleaned windows. Possibly disguise myself in the grocery store meat department and talk to passers-by.

    hmm...

    Then I would come home, and I'd need a vat of brain fluid.

    The government would try to retrain all of their animal control people to be able to catch me with conventional tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    I'd say that I agree to some degree. However there are the occasional cyclist who seems to think that because the car driver will get prosecuted as standard that this gives them the right to ride like airheads. Similar to the mothers who seem to think they can use a pushchair to stop traffic and then yell at anyone who doesn't immediately slam the anchors on (remembering that here there's none of this jay walking nonsense).
    Where I live, the justice system seems grossly in favor of car owners vs cyclists, and the settlements for minor injuries caused by car drivers are ridiculous. One low-speed accident entirely at car driver's fault was estimated at what, few hundred euros. He got away with bruises and some abrasions (wounds, don't got a better word), with few days away from work.

    This is a reason why I've actually planned to carry a sledge hammer in my oversized backbag - to hold immediate field street court sessions - and to execute the punishment to the said vehicle after rulings of said court.

    My eyes actually gleamed over when I saw that 10-pound hammer with a 2 3-feet shaft in the local hardware store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    Where I live, the justice system seems grossly in favor of car owners vs cyclists, and the settlements for minor injuries caused by car drivers are ridiculous. One low-speed accident entirely at car driver's fault was estimated at what, few hundred euros. He got away with bruises and some abrasions (wounds, don't got a better word), with few days away from work.

    This is a reason why I've actually planned to carry a sledge hammer in my oversized backbag - to hold immediate field street court sessions - and to execute the punishment to the said vehicle after rulings of said court.

    My eyes actually gleamed over when I saw that 10-pound hammer with a 2 3-feet shaft in the local hardware store.
    Dude... get with the century. You could get one of those mercury bats... much lighter but with a similar impact. I mean... a hammer...jeez... you want a pickaxe or just an axe. How are you going to get a hammer through a sports cars grill? I mean.. come on... forward planning... hello...


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    only if it's pink

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    Quote Originally Posted by millerm277 View Post
    However, I am 100% against legislation mandating it. If someone doesn't want to wear one and feels like taking those risks (as I do at times), its fine with me.
    I agree wholeheartedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Works View Post
    Agreed. I rely on my brains for my livelihood. Arms and legs I could do without if push comes to dismemberment, but the brain has got to stay.
    Eh? I'm more along the lines of my arms and legs can be put in a cast. Most everything else can heal when broken just fine - the brain can't...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sling View Post
    I wouldn't mind totaly brain debridement, as long as my consciousness stayed in my brain.

    I wouldn't mind being a floating brain.

    I'd hover about, issuing orders, smearing brain juice on freshly cleaned windows. Possibly disguise myself in the grocery store meat department and talk to passers-by.

    hmm...

    Then I would come home, and I'd need a vat of brain fluid.

    The government would try to retrain all of their animal control people to be able to catch me with conventional tools.
    you could be like krang and get a bike helmet for the robot whose belly you reside in.

    then shredder and rock steady and be bop would come over and, well, it would just be awesome.
    just throw it against the wall and see what sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    Where I live, the justice system seems grossly in favor of car owners vs cyclists, and the settlements for minor injuries caused by car drivers are ridiculous. One low-speed accident entirely at car driver's fault was estimated at what, few hundred euros. He got away with bruises and some abrasions (wounds, don't got a better word), with few days away from work.

    This is a reason why I've actually planned to carry a sledge hammer in my oversized backbag - to hold immediate field street court sessions - and to execute the punishment to the said vehicle after rulings of said court.

    My eyes actually gleamed over when I saw that 10-pound hammer with a 2 3-feet shaft in the local hardware store.
    i worked with a dude who carried a hammer when he rode downtown and would break the lights of drivers who threatened him.
    just throw it against the wall and see what sticks.

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    Forgive but a cursory glance at this thread. Apparently you are talking about bicycle helmets.

    Here in MN there has been a long-standing debate about motorcycle helmets. which I can say a few words about. The issues remain similar.

    I'll preface this with the fact that I have a friend who lost her nineteen-year old son when he hit a curb, fell off his bicycle and struck his head on the cement. He was traveling at a slow speed and so it was a bizarre quirk of fate. Tragic.

    My husband and I have both ridden motorycles since the '70s and for some time he was politically active in ABATE, American Bikers Aimed Toward Education.

    So both sides of the issue are clear to me and there are valid arguments on both sides.

    We also have acquaintances whose lives have been permanently altered by accidents both while wearing helmets and not. Chosing to put yourself out there with cars on either motorized or unmotorized vehicles is a risky choice. While not all automobile owners are aware of that fact in a personal manner, every biker knows it only too well.

    My personal preference is all I can offer. I own a helmet but wear it only where required by law or in inclement weather. I feel stifled by it and think it interferes with hearing vehicles approaching me from the rear. It also muffles the sound of my engine which I feel a need to hear to operate my bike well.

    I understand that helmets can be purchased which don't cover the ears. Many wear the full-head ones because they like protection from the wind, however.

    There is the stance of social obligation should one have a life-threatening accident which requires financial support from insurance or Medicare. So some think one is being socially irresponsible if they choose to not wear a helmet and leave the consequences for society to take care of.

    Another viewpoint considers the egg-shell quality of even the best engineered helmet at speeds higher than thirty-five miles per hour.

    Another thought is that many riders who survive accidents while wearing a helmet suffer from the helmet damaging the neck area and causing paralysis leaving the victim alive but unable to move.

    I've heard more than one biker say fatalistically that he'd rather die flat out than survive severely disabled.

    Of course, ultimately no manner of precaution will protect us from a convergence of quirks in the weave of fate. So my thought is the government needs to tend to more pressing issues than whether I wear a helmet or not.

    Let them spend our tax money on education for all who take to the road on two wheels, learn the safest possible way to enjoy their rides and take their chances.

    *Sits back and waits for the Toilet Police.*
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