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    I think I can develop one hell of a problem and afraid I won't be able to deal with this...The thing is a have the whole history of "unhealthy relationship" to food behind me and the whole history might be just waiting for me. Well...I was used to eat one meal a day, like vegetables and soya meet, sometimes not even that and lost really a lot of weight. But then... people started to bitch about how I look, my mom was crazy about it, my friends were crazy about it...etc... My mom started to control my eating so freaking much, I just had to start eating normally. At first I tried to keep my weight range low, but then it all got totally fucked up and I just thought...okay they want me to eat normally so I will, I don't have to control myself that much anymore...so I started to eat everything...totally everything. I lost control over my eating...I just started to bing eating too much and that sucks ...Is there anyone with any experience with really strict dieting and then getting back to normal eating? Is it possible without binges? I fear, that if I am going to continue this I won't be able to get throught the door by the end of this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    I think I can develop one hell of a problem and afraid I won't be able to deal with this...The thing is a have the whole history of "unhealthy relationship" to food behind me and the whole history might be just waiting for me. Well...I was used to eat one meal a day, like vegetables and soya meet, sometimes not even that and lost really a lot of weight. But then... people started to bitch about how I look, my mom was crazy about it, my friends were crazy about it...etc... My mom started to control my eating so freaking much, I just had to start eating normally. At first I tried to keep my weight range low, but then it all got totally fucked up and I just thought...okay they want me to eat normally so I will, I don't have to control myself that much anymore...so I started to eat everything...totally everything. I lost control over my eating...I just started to bing eating too much and that sucks ...Is there anyone with any experience with really strict dieting and then getting back to normal eating? Is it possible without binges? I fear, that if I am going to continue this I won't be able to get throught the door by the end of this year.
    Yes. This sounds a lot like my experience. I wound up going to therapy for it, once I realized that I was no longer able to eat normally (after about a year and a half of trying to "just eat normally" on my own). I realized that the issues contributing to my problems with food actually had very little to do with eating at all. I'm still working on it, and definitely don't have a completely healthy relationship with food, but I'm a lot better now.

    It's lead me to a really awesome place in my journey of self-love, and taking control (and loosening up control in other ways) of my life. I still feel like it's a pretty recent embarkment, but I've never felt so empowered and self-aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    Yes. This sounds a lot like my experience. I wound up going to therapy for it, once I realized that I was no longer able to eat normally (after about a year and a half of trying to "just eat normally" on my own). I realized that the issues contributing to my problems with food actually had very little to do with eating at all. I'm still working on it, and definitely don't have a completely healthy relationship with food, but I'm a lot better now.

    It's lead me to a really awesome place in my journey of self-love, and taking control (and loosening up control in other ways) of my life. I still feel like it's a pretty recent embarkment, but I've never felt so empowered and self-aware.
    Oh, an experience like this sucks... Did you start to binge as well? Or did you get into dieting again? I would like to go back to dieting, but I can't ... I used to go to therapy during the summer, but I stopped after few sessions. I don't really know why, I went to therapy a few times before, but everytime I stopped like after 3 sessions. Last time I stopped the therapist told me, that I don't want to open up and if I am not going to be open about my problems he can't help me. He told me to call him...I never did. And I never got back to therapy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    Oh, an experience like this sucks... Did you start to binge as well? Or did you get into dieting again? I would like to go back to dieting, but I can't ... I used to go to therapy during the summer, but I stopped after few sessions. I don't really know why, I went to therapy a few times before, but everytime I stopped like after 3 sessions. Last time I stopped the therapist told me, that I don't want to open up and if I am not going to be open about my problems he can't help me. He told me to call him...I never did. And I never got back to therapy again.
    Yeah I basically went from a period of extreme dieting to a period of bingeing/restricting in kind of a cyclical way. Some times more bingeing than dieting, sometimes it was both in shorter periods of time, and sometimes I'd restrict for longer periods.

    Yeah, being open in therapy is definitely crucial. There's no way I could have gotten the insight into what I was really dealing with without being open. At that point I just felt so desperate and out of control that I would do anything to get out of the place I felt so stuck in.

    EDIT: I just want to add that I was totally mind-blown by the depth of the issue. I was thinking I was gonna get treated for an eating disorder and be done with it. The ultimate relief I felt in uncovering some of the deeper issues I was dealing with was crazy! I like didn't even realize how much of a burdon I had been carrying around. The food thing was just a manifestation of all of the other stuff that was going on inside me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    Yeah I basically went from a period of extreme dieting to a period of bingeing/restricting in kind of a cyclical way. Some times more bingeing than dieting, sometimes it was both in shorter periods of time, and sometimes I'd restrict for longer periods.

    Yeah, being open in therapy is definitely crucial. There's no way I could have gotten the insight into what I was really dealing with without being open. At that point I just felt so desperate and out of control that I would do anything to get out of the place I felt so stuck in.

    EDIT: I just want to add that I was totally mind-blown by the depth of the issue. I was thinking I was gonna get treated for an eating disorder and be done with it. The ultimate relief I felt in uncovering some of the deeper issues I was dealing with was crazy! I like didn't even realize how much of a burdon I had been carrying around. The food thing was just a manifestation of all of the other stuff that was going on inside me.
    This is exactly what happened to me... I had the control and everything and now I can restrict for a few days, I lost a kilo or so and feel much better about myself and then suddenly something just turns over in my mind and I binge and gain...and then again diet, and then binge... crazy.
    I felt like I'd do anything to get from the problems that make me stuck many times before... But I never did do anything about it. I still kind of feel like if I could reach my goal weight I could stop it and just be happy...

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    I have a natural tendency to over eat.
    There'as not alot of rhyme or reason to it - I'm simply ravenous.
    And because I'm not one to like being hassled with details and nit-picking, I have had to turn to simple rules of thumb to keep my weight in check, namely:
    (1) Exercise = Find some form that you like and you'll do it more regularly

    (2) Eat smaller portions, but more frequently. Instead of 3 big meals per day, divide each in half and space them out every two hours or so

    (3) Protein shakes/Smoothies = Have alot of nutrition but are low in calories if made sensibly

    (4) Get bloodwork done = If you are hypo-thyroid it doesn't matter how well you eat, or how much you exercise - you will gain weight, and it's frustrating as hell. My Das gained almost 30 pounfs in a single year, his soctor ran some bloodwork and found his thyroid levels were near zero - after being on synthroid/T3 for 3 months his weight was down to normal levels, and his energy levels back to normal

    (5) Cut your carbohydrate intake, increase your protein + vegetable + healthy fat intake. I can drop 5 pounds in about 2 weeks if I do this alone

    Mt biggest weakness?
    Midnight snacking!
    I eat well most days, but when I wake up in the middle of the night I am starving and pissed off and about 5 minutes later a massive glass of milk + something sweet is going down the hatch.

    None of the above are silver bullets, but each helps a little, and serves to keep the beast that is me in check somehow.

    You can totally figure this out!
    Give me a shout if you need any exercise ideas, I have a ton stored in my head at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    I have a natural tendency to over eat.
    There'as not alot of rhyme or reason to it - I'm simply ravenous.
    And because I'm not one to like being hassled with details and nit-picking, I have had to turn to simple rules of thumb to keep my weight in check, namely:
    (1) Exercise = Find some form that you like and you'll do it more regularly

    (2) Eat smaller portions, but more frequently. Instead of 3 big meals per day, divide each in half and space them out every two hours or so

    (3) Protein shakes/Smoothies = Have alot of nutrition but are low in calories if made sensibly

    (4) Get bloodwork done = If you are hypo-thyroid it doesn't matter how well you eat, or how much you exercise - you will gain weight, and it's frustrating as hell. My Das gained almost 30 pounfs in a single year, his soctor ran some bloodwork and found his thyroid levels were near zero - after being on synthroid/T3 for 3 months his weight was down to normal levels, and his energy levels back to normal

    (5) Cut your carbohydrate intake, increase your protein + vegetable + healthy fat intake. I can drop 5 pounds in about 2 weeks if I do this alone

    Mt biggest weakness?
    Midnight snacking!
    I eat well most days, but when I wake up in the middle of the night I am starving and pissed off and about 5 minutes later a massive glass of milk + something sweet is going down the hatch.

    None of the above are silver bullets, but each helps a little, and serves to keep the beast that is me in check somehow.

    You can totally figure this out!
    Give me a shout if you need any exercise ideas, I have a ton stored in my head at all times.

    Thank you
    The true is, that I try to eat healthy, but when I am in my mood for binge, it's just hard for me to control what I eat. I tried some exercise and I feel like I am better at this, because I used to be much lazier, now I excercise a bit more, but still I think it's not much and I could do more. I did my blood tests and I am actually hyper thyriod. I used to take hormonal pills for 5 years and I gaind 30 lbs in not even an year when I took them. But now my doctor said the thyriod is still hyper, but I don't have to take the pills anymore. I lost weight since I am not on these pills, actually the whole 35lbs. But as I said I used to diet much and not really in a healthy way. Now when I started to binge I still didn't gain much, I think if any other person without a thyroid problem would be eating as much as I did the past moth he would gain twice as much as I did. But I am really interested in some excercise advices, so share them if you have any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    This is exactly what happened to me... I had the control and everything and now I can restrict for a few days, I lost a kilo or so and feel much better about myself and then suddenly something just turns over in my mind and I binge and gain...and then again diet, and then binge... crazy.
    I felt like I'd do anything to get from the problems that make me stuck many times before... But I never did do anything about it. I still kind of feel like if I could reach my goal weight I could stop it and just be happy...
    Yeah, that out of control feeling is scary. Made me feel even worse about myself when I would binge, cuz I just felt like ashamed, disgusting, and like I had no self-control in those times. For me, I had to shift the focus away from food and onto the mental and emotional stuff. I am so much happier with my body now than when I was hyper-focused on my weight. As long as the focus was on my body, I don't think I could have ever reached a point where my eating problems were resolved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    Yeah, that out of control feeling is scary. Made me feel even worse about myself when I would binge, cuz I just felt like ashamed, disgusting, and like I had no self-control in those times. For me, I had to shift the focus away from food and onto the mental and emotional stuff. I am so much happier with my body now than when I was hyper-focused on my weight. As long as the focus was on my body, I don't think I could have ever reached a point where my eating problems were resolved.
    Yes that feeling of failure... It's like falling off a cliff. You diet, you climb the cliff, you're on its top. Then you binge and fall and then climb again...
    To be really honest I didn't like you that much at first, but the more I chat with you the more I can see we have some things in common and I am just really glad, that you're here on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    Yes that feeling of failure... It's like falling off a cliff. You diet, you climb the cliff, you're on its top. Then you binge and fall and then climb again...
    To be really honest I didn't like you that much at first, but the more I chat with you the more I can see we have some things in common and I am just really glad, that you're here on this forum.
    Ugh yeah it's a terrible up and down cycle. Leaves you feeling trapped and down on yourself.

    Aw, thank you! I'm glad you're here too. I think we have some things in common too. It's really nice to talk to other people who deal with similar stuff.
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