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    OBTW, that health food rep didn't know what REM sleep was.
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    Something else occurred during my experiment with PA-prescribed Tramodol. I haven't been able to sleep on my back for at least a year, but last night I had no trouble whatsoever.

    What is it about Tramodol that enabled me to sleep on my back after all this time?
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    I had a lot of trouble sleeping while I was in the throes of separation. Twas awful. It was more awful to mention it to my PA (ooh--a pattern!). Anyway, he gave me some Trazadone. They've got to get rid of those old tricyclics some kind of way and they make a powerful sleeping pill in sub-anti-depressant doses. I had the worse frigging reaction to that crap ever...stuck in this crappy, nightmare horror...couldn't wake up...brought out the worse of my hypnagogic and hypnopompic stuff.



    I take melatonin now. It helps some. I need some skullcap tincture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    I had a lot of trouble sleeping while I was in the throes of separation. Twas awful. It was more awful to mention it to my PA (ooh--a pattern!). Anyway, he gave me some Trazadone. They've got to get rid of those old tricyclics some kind of way and they make a powerful sleeping pill in sub-anti-depressant doses. I had the worse frigging reaction to that crap ever...stuck in this crappy, nightmare horror...couldn't wake up...brought out the worse of my hypnagogic and hypnopompic stuff.



    I take melatonin now. It helps some. I need some skullcap tincture.
    That's another interesting herb to consider.
    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...tName=SKULLCAP
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    Valerian is good, too. Particularly with improving the quality of sleep. Unfortunately, the taste is so very bad that few can stomach it. Even the pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    Valerian is good, too. Particularly with improving the quality of sleep. Unfortunately, the taste is so very bad that few can stomach it. Even the pills.
    Don't eat that shit, just add some to bath water and bathe in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Don't eat that shit, just add some to bath water and bathe in it.
    Oh no...I wouldn't even do that. If I smell it, I might as well be drinking it so naw...I'll stick to other stuff!

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    There is an amazing high you can get off stuff you can find in the grocery store. The word oregano is "pot" in Italian, because it is Italian pot. Roll a joint in it, and you'll never need to snort reefer again.
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    Haha. Some say the same about nutmeg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapLawyer View Post
    Haha. Some say the same about nutmeg.
    That one is actually true. Needs lots of it. Nasty and not worth it.

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