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    boyfriend lost quite a bit of weight by using the app MyFitnessPal, which held him accountable for everything he ate and any exercise he did... he's the spreadsheet and accountability loving type anyways

    I accidentally dropped a few sizes by taking on a physically demanding job even though I now eat like a horse because I'm famished that's always a possibility!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    boyfriend lost quite a bit of weight by using the app MyFitnessPal, which held him accountable for everything he ate and any exercise he did... he's the spreadsheet and accountability loving type anyways

    I accidentally dropped a few sizes by taking on a physically demanding job even though I now eat like a horse because I'm famished that's always a possibility!
    I love spread sheets and being accountable though I do best being accountable to others, myself is like meh what am i gonna do if i don't follow through? nothing
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    Did you remember to take before pics? Because you may be kicking yourself later if not. I've seen people do periodic pic-taking in order to see how far they've come too. It's pretty cool to see the changes.
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    I would highly recommend coupling diet and exercise. Just doing one won't be enough.. but if you already eat relatively healthy, here's some beginner tips. (I train my mother, who's got a disease and she's pretty newbish when it comes to exercise.)

    - Warm up and cool down. Nothing fancy, take about 5-10 minutes for each. For a warm up you want to do some simple moves to get your heart rate up and get your body and muscles warm. http://www.usfsa.org/content/Exercises.pdf These are really awesome, just pick a couple you like.
    - Cardio for about 20 minutes. This will burn off your quick energy, making everything you do afterwards pure fat-burn and muscle-gain. Walking on the treadmill, swimming, jogging, playing a sport, anything you want. If you walk, aim for about a 15-17 minute mile pace (or, if you don't know what that feels like, walk and sing along with a song.. if you have trouble singing and don't really feel like it then you're good. If you absolutely cannot talk, you're working more than you really need to for this segment. It should be uncomfortable, but not killing you.)
    - Switch off and try new things. Lifting weights really should be your focus to begin with, because building muscle means burning fat.. so just do a circuit. Usually they line all the leg machines, ab machines, and arm machines up in a row. Switch it off--do arms and back one day, legs the next day, and maybe a longer cardio session the third day. Just jump on the machines, push the weight around for 3 reps of 8-12 and then jump on the next machine. Don't worry about how much weight you can do... just adjust it until you can do at least 8-12 reps. You should have a lot of difficulty completing those reps, but not enough that you cannot do three sets of them. It should not feel easy, but you shouldn't feel like you're dying on them.
    - Work on your abs every day. Spend the last few moments of your work out working on crunches and left lifts and things like that. Your abs can handle daily work outs and it really is necessary to keep your core up with the rest of your body. Those muscles are deep and layered so making sure you get to them all means every time you work out you need to focus on them a little.
    - Cool downs should be stretching. Warm ups should not be straight-out stretching because it really isn't good for your muscles, but stretching is the best way to prevent lactic acid burning in your muscles, injuries, sprains, and aches.

    Also, obligatory disclaimer that water is important here. I don't know what kind of gym you have, but if you have one with a pool I highly recommend swimming. It is fun, and it is the best workout there is. If you have classes you can attend, you might want to get into those because the instructors will try to hold you at least somewhat accountable for coming back. Even if you feel silly during it, it is still a guided work out by a professional. If it is just weights, feel free to ask others what they do people are usually MORE than happy to tell you how to work out Lol..

    As far as eating habits. I just discovered this "salad in a mason jar" thing and it really is saving my vegetable crisper. Pastas you can never go wrong with. skinnytaste.com has a lot of really awesome recipes for substitution-based cooking and eating. I know you like to experiment so maybe just find some tasty go-to meals and stick with them for a while?

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    Losing weight is all about caloric spread--the difference in what you burn and what you consume. It is very difficult to reach an effective spread without both diet and exercise.

    With that said, there are a few key points to remember about each:

    Exercise:
    The best time of day for fat burning is first thing in the morning before you eat anything. This forces the body to find and use energy which your body already has. This also contributes to motivating you for the rest of the day not to eat off your work with nutritionally sub-par food.

    Ever read the nutritional label and see "Calories", followed by "Calories from fat" and realize they aren't the same thing? The same applies to the fuel that your body uses to perform a workout... not all of the fuel you burn is from fat, just like not all the fuel you consume is from fat, and yet excess fuel is always converted to fat. To lose that fat, you need to reverse that process and that takes certain conditions. The ratio of fat calories burned to total calories burned is highest at a BPM of ~60-65% of max. This means that by doing a steady-paced workout, you may burn less overall calories in the same amount of time but more of those will be fat. Also, your body will not actively start using fat as the primary source of energy until you are about 25-30 minutes into your workout anyways. An effective fat burning workout will keep you at a BPM of 60-65% for 50-90 minutes.

    Although any intensive exercise done regularly will help you lose weight, a lot of people think that their 20-30 minute sweat-puddle cardio sessions means they're losing the most fat, when it was actually that person doing a leisurely 3 mph on the treadmill as you walked past thinking how much better your commitment is than theirs because you work so hard at the gym. Truth is, you'd never burn as many calories from fat as that person if they did a full 90 minutes.

    Diet:
    Since you have the help of exercise to create a calorie spread, you shouldn't need crash dieting or to starve yourself on 1200 calories-a-day or something. Instead, focus on the content of what you're eating and start making better choices about nutrition without worrying too much about calories. This is a learned skill and will take time to develop. For more information on effective dieting, see my other post here:

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=1#post2081162

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    Quote Originally Posted by LevelZeroHero View Post
    Losing weight is all about caloric spread--the difference in what you burn and what you consume. It is very difficult to reach an effective spread without both diet and exercise.

    With that said, there are a few key points to remember about each:

    Exercise:
    The best time of day for fat burning is first thing in the morning before you eat anything. This also contributes to motivating you for the rest of the day not to eat off your work with nutritionally sub-par food. The ratio of fat calories burned to total calories burned is highest at a BPM of ~60-65% of max. This means that by doing a steady-paced workout, you may burn less overall calories in the same amount of time but more of those will be fat. Also, your body will not actively start using fat for energy until after about 25-30 minutes of your workout. Although, done regularly any activity can be effective for weight loss, the above two facts means that the best way to burn calories is not high-intensity cardio. It is better to maintain a BPM of 60-65% for 60-90 minutes... for many, this may be a walking pace of only 3-4 mph.

    Diet:
    Since you have the help of exercise to create a calorie spread, you shouldn't need crash dieting or to starve yourself on 1200 calories-a-day or something. Instead, focus on the content of what you're eating and start making better choices about nutrition without worrying too much about calories. This is a learned skill and will take time to develop. For more information on effective dieting, see my other post here:

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=1#post2081162
    I tend to eat less than a 1000 on average a day unless i wake up 2am and snack than i get up to 1500 I don't try to do this, it just happens. I might try 6 small meals cuz I get bored with eating which is why i don't eat a lot in one setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I tend to eat less than a 1000 on average a day unless i wake up 2am and snack than i get up to 1500 I don't try to do this, it just happens. I might try 6 small meals cuz I get bored with eating which is why i don't eat a lot in one setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I tend to eat less than a 1000 on average a day unless i wake up 2am and snack than i get up to 1500 I don't try to do this, it just happens. I might try 6 small meals cuz I get bored with eating which is why i don't eat a lot in one setting.
    I made some changes since you quoted... also check out my other post linked on nutrition. I also tend to eat "like a snake" (1-2 very large meals per day) and that was because I wasn't eating proactively, I would not eat because I didn't feel like it, and by the time I did I was very hungry.

    You have to eat what you should eat, when you should eat it in order for your preferences to change. Just eating what and when you want based on how you feel at the moment is the hard way.

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    Yes, proper diet and exercise appears to be the best way to go, not a pill. This is demonstrated in the TV show "Extreme Makeover: Weight Loss Edition."

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    who said anything about a pill?
    In no likes experiment.

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