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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    Growing up in one of the fattest cities in the world has really given me a fond appreciation for slim figures. I say bring on the fatties, it puts us regular folks' existence into perspective.


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    I live in the same city, as you know. I don't think it puts me in perspective. I get fat people telling me I need to gain weight. They're perception is skewed. I'm actually slightly overweight by 10-15 lbs.

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    thats ridiculous, however increasing taxes and insurances would be a good idea.
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    The most responsible course of action, IMO, is to dramatically increase nutrition education. I firmly believe that people should be making their own dietary choices without governmental interference, and it seems like a lot of the current health crises rests upon a population of misinformed citizens. Somehow increasing awareness -- either through public education or other means -- should help to combat the obesity crisis.

    Increasing certain taxes may be beneficial, but ultimately I think that kind of response won't address the core problem of it all.

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    No, it shouldn't be illegal because part of it can be attributed to genetic or medical reasons. Some people will be somewhat fat no matter what. Some will be skinny even though they eat all the wrong things. There are some medical conditions where significant weight gain is a symptom. Some medications too can cause significant weight gain but the alternative may be worse than just being overweight.

    And yes, there are fat people that are fat because of poor eating choices. But not all fat people are fat for that reason.

    So it's just plain absurd to make something illegal for something that one doesn't have total control over.


    What should be done instead is have more strict regulations on posting accurate nutritional information on foods. Maybe put warning labels on certain junk foods, similar to what's done on cigarettes. Or just more heavily tax certain junk foods.

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    But I've got a better question: should morbidly obese people who cannot fit in a single seat in an airplane have to pay for more than one seat? Or should the rest of the flyers have to suffer an uncomfortable ride and potentially suffocate?
    No. I think that's a form of discrimination in a way. I don't think others should have to suffer either though. I think airlines should set aside a couple of seats just for that purpose. You couldn't sit there unless it's obvious you are morbidly obese. If the seats end up not taken, someone of more average weight could take the seat but they would have to pay extra for it.

    I feel like I'm one of the few people who has this opinion. Seems like people are just overly eager to penalize the mordibly obese in whatever way they see fit as if the condition is totally their fault and this is your punishment for making a stupid decision. Let's make you pay double for a seat!

    I'm not morbidly obese but I have a loved one in my life who is. So it likely has made me more compassionate on this sort of thing.
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    64% of the US is overweight or obese, good luck trying to fit them all in prison. Teehee.

    Yeah that's just what poor people need, higher taxes and insurance costs.

    As for planes big people in general should have to pay if they take someone elses personal space (that should include fat people, tall people, broad shouldered people, guys that like to sit with their knees as far apart as possible and overly friendly extraverts).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    64% of the US is overweight or obese, good luck trying to fit them all in prison. Teehee.

    Yeah that's just what poor people need, higher taxes and insurance costs.

    As for planes big people in general should have to pay if they take someone elses personal space (that should include fat people, tall people, broad shouldered people, guys that like to sit with their knees as far apart as possible and overly friendly extraverts).
    I lol'd

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    Define fat. Do you mean medically obese? Big enough to potentially require two airplane seats and to subtract ten or twenty years from life span? People who can't walk across the parking lot without complaining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    If being fat is illegal, then you have to make a lot of convenience foods illegal too. After all, who gets the harsher sentence - the crackhead or the crack dealer?
    Thank you INTJ voice of reason. It's amazing to me how people get this with crack and heroin, but not cigarettes or the perfect laboratory combination of HFC and synthetic fats.

    There's an extra special combo of fat and sugar that people crave and fiend for, and the more you eat of it, the more you want of it, and furthermore, eating these simple sugars doesn't signal to the brain "full" like high-fiber raw vegetables, cooked beans and pulses, and whole grains do.

    Yes, drug dealers and pimps should be punished to the fullest extent of the law but people should be totally responsible for their ignorant food choices and being manipulated by advertising.

    I mean, yes, in a way they SHOULD, I mean I am able to resist watching television ads and know how to eat healthy, but I've also always made really good grades and was well-nourished in my formative years, and was never severely beaten or administered vodka as a small child, so I can't take the full credit for my intelligence and resistance to corporate manipulation.

    It's weird bc my biological father was a drug addict, and I'm not. I don't know if it skips a generation, or manifests in other ways with ethics and education, such as appearing as OCD and anxiety or something instead of drug addiction.

    Poor people should all exhibit exquisite personal responsibility and rich people can do whatever they want, this is the American way.

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    of course there's the problem also that BMI isn't a fair measurement of whether or not someone's overweight... according to BMI charts I'm overweight but that's muscle mass instead of fat that skews the weight portion of it

    also, would this mean that fruits and vegetables would be cheaper? that would be awesome because it's cheaper to buy junk food than to buy healthy food... that's why our grocery bills are so crazy around here
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    thats ridiculous, however increasing taxes and insurances would be a good idea.
    How about raising taxes and insurances on junk food peddlers?

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