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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    Packaged food is low in nutrition and fiber, high in salt and sugar calories, but is cheaper than nutritious, high fiber, low calorie foods.
    It's more because it tastes better.

    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeitlikethat View Post
    Is it excercise phobia, not knowing what to put into your body or, a cultural thing?
    It's not a phobia unless, perhaps, someone is really fat and refuses to leave their home lest they be judged by a culture that stigmatizes fat people for being unhealthy, which could sometimes be the case (though, of course, fat people aren't always anymore healthy or unhealthy than the next person). So in this way, I guess it's a cultural thing.

    But I think what's more likely is that high calorie food tastes good and exercise is a tedious and tiring chore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeitlikethat View Post
    Is it excercise phobia, not knowing what to put into your body or, a cultural thing?

    Why are fat people, fat?
    Genetic factors, health and diet all contribute. Some people have a slow metabolism.
    Some have less ability to burn off fat, carbs, calories, etc.

    I used to be a rather big guy weighing in at about 300 pounds.
    I wallowed in self-loathing as I ingested soda, burgers and beer like they were going out of season.

    Eventually, I slowed up on the poor dieting and dropped the video game controller (for the most part).
    I partake in more physical activities now. I feel a lot better; a lot lighter.

    I'm not a health fiend but I look back in disgust, my prior habits.

    Currently, I'm in the low(er) 200s.

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    Another one that gets overlooked is drinking calories.

    Drinking calories is just like eating them - this includes milk and vegetable or fruit juice. Why is it a problem though?

    Your body doesn't treat liquid energy in the same way it does when digesting solid foods. Often these are empty calories in comparison to an equivalent food even when the drink is a 'healthy' drink.

    Better off with water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeitlikethat View Post
    Is it excercise phobia, not knowing what to put into your body or, a cultural thing?

    Why are fat people, fat?
    Cause they consume more than they burn off.
    Which provides a few simple solutions: Stop fucking eating so much and/or work out and live a more active lifestyle.
    Some fat people will claim that they can work out all they want and they still stay fat and blah blah blah blah blah... Bullshit.
    Take those people and have them live in the woods for a year. They wont be fat a year later cause their body will use the fat they have for energy and wont be getting an excess of sugars, carbs, calories, fat, etc.. that aren't being used.

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    One more cause: addiction.

    Food is associated with family, love and generally good fuzzy feelings. Add to that the addictive qualities of sugar (and we have some serious sugar overload in our foods) and the general principle (at least here from the generation after the war) to always clear your plate and well..its a recipe for disaster. Food can act like alcohol, drugs and all the other addictive substances, in that it is truly easier to take a trip down memory lane stuffing your face to experience that feeling of contentness, love and warmth, than it is to confront whatever you are running from and actually work through it. And really..it is a lot easier to stuff something in your mouth and literally eat the emotions you are feeling, when someone is screaming at you that you are a worthless **** and you need to get your act together, and make yourself temporarily functional again (since you dont have to deal with the emotions anymore), than it is to tell them to fuck off, give you some space and let you work out what the hell is going on. Especially if you were raised that how you *feel* isn't exactly relevant to *anything* *ever* and you need to get with the program NOW.

    On top of that...you have to eat 3 times a day and binging is triggered when you do not eat, which screws up your metabolism.

    Iow: it is a vicious cycle. You eat because you feel lousy, you feel guilty coz you overate, which makes you in turn feel lousy and eat again, your metabolism gets all screwed up, your body asks for real food (and not the sugary fatty kind) making you feel lousy again, which makes you binge again. And your life becomes controlled by food. Both deprivation and actual physical pain from overeating. Deprivation becomes your worst fear, as food becomes your best friend/ abusive husband. Sure, it has horrid consequences (but in your mind you deserve them anyways) but at least you will be able to deal with whatever come your way, or so it feels.

    It becomes a habit, as it is a pain you can control (and use to punish yourself, by deliberately overeating when youve disappointed yourself). Which is preferable to the emotional pain that you have no clue how to deal with since you were never taught properly. In this, it is akin to cutting yourself.

    Add to that the fact that fat people are often treated worse than lepers and seen as lazy and dumb by society, as well as the fact that it aint like you can quit eating (like you can quit drinking for instance in order to fix the problem), as well as the fact that your guilty pleasure is broadcasted for all to see (after all, you carry it around on your body, its not like you can hide it, like a gambling-problem for instance) and the guilt, shame and misery your psyche gets submerged in only pushes you down faster. It is like wearing a shame-billboard, to invite bullying.

    And so you eat more. The heavier you get, the less you are inclined to get out of bed (digesting is actually energy consuming like mad and so your body feels sleepy all the time), or do something, contributing to the laziness-stigma, making matters worse, as well as your libido dropping, both due to the apathy and the body-image issues that follow and your interest in exercise goes out the window with all of that as well, since you cannot muster the energy and your body is so out of shape that it seriously becomes a frigging mountain you have to climb every time just to get started. You effectively become a prisoner within your own body.

    The worst part is that, like any addiction, you have to want to make the change and somehow find the strength and conviction that a) you *are* worth fighting for, b) you do deserve better and c) people are idiots so who cares what they think. As most of these people usually suffer from incredible low self-esteem, and incredible sensitivity to guilt-tripping and shaming, it can be immensely hard to crawl out of this pit.

    For loved ones, the pain of seeing the person they care for suffer and inflict that suffering upon themselves can turn their love into resentment and despair as they find all their good intentions going down the drain (since those are often experienced more like more guilt-tripping and shaming, with the person finding themselves unable to live up to their expectations, in essence only making things worse). There *is* no way to help them, except for support them in their every move, and not getting disheartened at their stumbling and relapsing along the way, which most people are not cut out for.

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    Before anyone asks, this disease is rampant in my family, hence my knowledge on the subject. My aunt, for instance, is at the point where she can no longer take care of herself and has been stuck in a depression for over 15 years, at the very least. And she gains weight *every* year, is unable to keep herself clean, clean her house to the point where she actually smells. It has destroyed her life. And she isn't the only one, unfortunately.
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    I think some of it is just activity and metabolism based and some people have an easier time then others just based on the makeup of there body. People wonder all the time how I am not obese and gigantic. When I was younger I have eaten around 11 sandwhiches in a sitting or 4 burgers for lunch and by 7th grade I could finish a pizza by myself. My breakfaqst was usually 4 peanutbutter and jelly sandwhiches with chocolate milk. In junior high my lunch was 2-3 nutter butters and 2 chocolate milks. My snack in high school was a chocolate shake and 2 hersheys sunday pies from burger king(frequently my breakfast as well). Then age set in and I cant eat quite that much anymore.

    This is not to say that those lazy people who just sit around and do nothing can claim its hereditary. Just some have a harder battle then others.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Has anyone put because they wanted to? Had a nice big belly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Has anyone put because they wanted to? Had a nice big belly.
    I have been told by a female that a fat person is a happy person...this is so long as they dont have overweight image issues and are comfortable with the way they look.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    I have been told by a female that a fat person is a happy person...this is so long as they dont have overweight image issues and are comfortable with the way they look.
    Yeah, I guess like with most things it is your attitude.

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