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    There's an entire thread about fat people? Leave it to an INTP.


    P.S.: you can find better information on this by doing your own research than by asking people on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilisa View Post
    more nutritionism.

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    Starch (Carbs) Is the Devil! ... So is sugar!

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    Practitioners of nutritionsm (trend science, journalism and marketing) -as the new priesthood, telling you which component to demonize and sanctify this month/year only to have it change in the near future.

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    From Food Culture to Food Science. The last important change wrought by the Western diet is not, strictly speaking, ecological. But the industrialization of our food that we call the Western diet is systematically destroying traditional food cultures. Before the modern food era — and before nutritionism — people relied for guidance about what to eat on their national or ethnic or regional cultures. We think of culture as a set of beliefs and practices to help mediate our relationship to other people, but of course culture (at least before the rise of science) has also played a critical role in helping mediate people’s relationship to nature. Eating being a big part of that relationship, cultures have had a great deal to say about what and how and why and when and how much we should eat. Of course when it comes to food, culture is really just a fancy word for Mom, the figure who typically passes on the food ways of the group — food ways that, although they were never “designed” to optimize health (we have many reasons to eat the way we do), would not have endured if they did not keep eaters alive and well.

    The sheer novelty and glamour of the Western diet, with its 17,000 new food products introduced every year, and the marketing muscle used to sell these products, has overwhelmed the force of tradition and left us where we now find ourselves: relying on science and journalism and marketing to help us decide questions about what to eat. Nutritionism, which arose to help us better deal with the problems of the Western diet, has largely been co-opted by it, used by the industry to sell more food and to undermine the authority of traditional ways of eating. You would not have read this far into this article if your food culture were intact and healthy; you would simply eat the way your parents and grandparents and great-grandparents taught you to eat. The question is, Are we better off with these new authorities than we were with the traditional authorities they supplanted? The answer by now should be clear.
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    meds could be a reason, anti depressants, and anti psychotics are lot of times culprits. lack of exercise, lack of healthy eating ect
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    i dunno what else to say so

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    Also- as a fat athlete I can tell you it is absolutely not about "exercise phobia" for me.

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    oh genetics, some people have crappy genetics when it comes to weight, they might have a thyroid problem or something else that prevents them from losing weight. they can exercise eat right ect and still be fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    oh genetics, some people have crappy genetics when it comes to weight, they might have a thyroid problem or something else that prevents them from losing weight. they can exercise eat right ect and still be fat.
    People say that, but I don't understand. Doesn't that somehow violate the laws of conservation of energy? Mass doesn't come from nowhere. Perhaps their bodies don't have access somehow to previously stored fat. I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    People say that, but I don't understand. Doesn't that somehow violate the laws of conservation of energy? Mass doesn't come from nowhere. Perhaps their bodies don't have access somehow to previously stored fat. I dunno.
    ever known some one on some of the anti psychotics, or has a thyroid problem and you see them exercising eating a low cal diet ect and still are fat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ever known some one on some of the anti psychotics, or has a thyroid problem and you see them exercising eating a low cal diet ect and still are fat?
    No, I haven't. And even so, it's very hard to tell what people are actually doing unless you happen to be around them all of the time.. I do know of many people who eat much more than they claim to or realize. I'm just curious if that condition is very common at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    People say that, but I don't understand. Doesn't that somehow violate the laws of conservation of energy? Mass doesn't come from nowhere. Perhaps their bodies don't have access somehow to previously stored fat. I dunno.
    Some of us drive a Prius that requires very little fuel to run. Others drive crazy high-performance sportscars that guzzle fuel.

    I would have been a kick-ass cavewoman- I can store that shit all damn winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    No, I haven't. And even so, it's very hard to tell what people are actually doing unless you happen to be around them all of the time.. I do know of many people who eat much more than they claim to or realize. I'm just curious if that condition is very common at all.
    I know its true because before i was on meds i ate the same and gained very little weight, a year after being put on meds i gained 20lbs and yes part of it could be my metabolism slowing down but when i got put on prozac i gained 20lbs in 2 months i got off it and the two meds i'm on now (latuda which is weight neutral supposedly but we'll see) and ablify (never gained weight on it) I should actually begin to lose weight.
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