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I'm considering in investing in cosmetic surgery...
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not the point. there's a lot more to it then those two elements.
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What, you need to see my lips move, too? You can't just imagine that?
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Hmm, hire a voice specialist?
I know that there are people that get hired to help actors speak for movies a lot of the time. Perhaps one could help you with your
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it's about presence man...you're a lil clueless to how this works aren't ya?
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Then hire a voice specialist.
win win!
also the logic loops in this thread remind me of the shyness thread.
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Then hire a voice specialist.
win win!
Can't people clearly tell that there's something wrong with my voice so I could save money?
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And the infiNiTe loop begins anew.
What I found wrong in your voice was the attitude you had that suggested through tone and inflection that you thought the entire idea was stupid. I was so wrapped up in your angst that I never even noticed whether you sounded nasal or naval or such.
Did that help?
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all us ne fi people notice is your vibe...the person you seem to be and where you're coming from. that's it.....well mostly...we can see the other stuff too obviously but were blind to it if the other part is distracting.
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Then hire a voice specialist.
win win!
also the logic loops in this thread remind me of the shyness thread.
I've told him that he was a lot like fireshield
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Just get a date in a brothel.
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We had this discussion already. No hookers.
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In your current state, you are probably going to attract the wrong type of woman.
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Can you describe this "wrong type of women?"
And I don't think I've ever asked, what is wrong with my "attitude?" What should I do to "improve" it?
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You give off a "leave me the eff alone... you are a moron" mixed with a "nothing is good enough" defeatist attitude. Add that with a layer of insecurity and it doesn't seem very inviting. Either someone exceptionally patient or someone with their own issues would probably touch that. Chances are, it would be the latter group that would take it which would probably be unhealthy.
Focus your analytical abilities elsewhere. There gets to be a point where analysing becomes counterproductive and pointless. Human factors and emotions are hard to quantify in a logical, objective way because they can be so variable. It seems like you are trying to fix subjective issues within objective parameters. There is a dissonance there.
Focus your analytical abilities elsewhere. There gets to be a point where analysing becomes counterproductive and pointless. Human factors and emotions are hard to quantify in a logical, objective way because they can be so variable. It seems like you are trying to fix subjective issues within objective parameters. There is a dissonance there.
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Yeah, it's an attitude of disdain overlaying insecurity. It sends a very strong message of "I am not interested", which is very effective people-repellent.
[MENTION=5109]Glycerine[/MENTION] hit the nail on the head - trying to address the subjective with the objective.
Right now it's like you've got two "vibes" emanating from you: the first one (what I called disdain), "pushing away". It has the potential to be dry-funny (humorous dismissal) or mentally intriguing (you must be disinterested in _____ because you are interested in something more important), but only if combined with a positive, joking attitude, or, respectively, a confident, inquisitive attitude. The issue is you're combining that with the second vibe, a "pulling inwards" (what I called insecurity), which also has the potential to be non-threatening and pleasant - but only if combined with warmth and openness - or the potential to be reflective and developmental - if combined with interest and internal growth - but it seems like the pushing away plus pulling inwards together are combining to isolate you from the external world - which I assume is at least part of what Glycerine sees in terms of you trying to solve a subjective and internal issue by addressing objective and external facets of yourself.
I hope this doesn't come across as offensive. It's not to say anything like "you need an attitude adjustment", it's just that you seem to be wanting to change yourself to be more attractive to others but the primary things that seem off-putting are subjective (and easier to change!) factors like your tone and the styles you choose to wear instead of objective factors like your face (which, I feel, is attractive) or your voice itself (which doesn't put me off at all). It doesn't seem to be anything intrinsic to you that is unappealing, but how you are presenting yourself currently makes it seem like you do not want to be appealing - even though clearly, from this thread, you do.
If you're not interested in any more advice in terms of the subjective, please just let me know, but I felt like this would be a more useful and truthful answer to the questions you are asking, as opposed to a superficial and easy answer.
[MENTION=5109]Glycerine[/MENTION] hit the nail on the head - trying to address the subjective with the objective.
Right now it's like you've got two "vibes" emanating from you: the first one (what I called disdain), "pushing away". It has the potential to be dry-funny (humorous dismissal) or mentally intriguing (you must be disinterested in _____ because you are interested in something more important), but only if combined with a positive, joking attitude, or, respectively, a confident, inquisitive attitude. The issue is you're combining that with the second vibe, a "pulling inwards" (what I called insecurity), which also has the potential to be non-threatening and pleasant - but only if combined with warmth and openness - or the potential to be reflective and developmental - if combined with interest and internal growth - but it seems like the pushing away plus pulling inwards together are combining to isolate you from the external world - which I assume is at least part of what Glycerine sees in terms of you trying to solve a subjective and internal issue by addressing objective and external facets of yourself.
I hope this doesn't come across as offensive. It's not to say anything like "you need an attitude adjustment", it's just that you seem to be wanting to change yourself to be more attractive to others but the primary things that seem off-putting are subjective (and easier to change!) factors like your tone and the styles you choose to wear instead of objective factors like your face (which, I feel, is attractive) or your voice itself (which doesn't put me off at all). It doesn't seem to be anything intrinsic to you that is unappealing, but how you are presenting yourself currently makes it seem like you do not want to be appealing - even though clearly, from this thread, you do.
If you're not interested in any more advice in terms of the subjective, please just let me know, but I felt like this would be a more useful and truthful answer to the questions you are asking, as opposed to a superficial and easy answer.
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Arrogance may be unattractive, but that doesn't make insecurity attractive either.
Keep that in mind, and do try to stop looking for excuses to tell everyone precisely how much your face is fucked up when it actually isn't.
It seems like you actually want people to tell you that your nose is horrible and you need to get your face sliced open or something. Not cool.
You seem to be the type of guy that I meet now and again; the type that feels intellectually superior and is arrogant in the ideological sense but beneath that veneer of supposed mental superiority has a seething mass of insecurity issues.
Keep that in mind, and do try to stop looking for excuses to tell everyone precisely how much your face is fucked up when it actually isn't.
It seems like you actually want people to tell you that your nose is horrible and you need to get your face sliced open or something. Not cool.
You seem to be the type of guy that I meet now and again; the type that feels intellectually superior and is arrogant in the ideological sense but beneath that veneer of supposed mental superiority has a seething mass of insecurity issues.
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What [MENTION=5109]Glycerine[/MENTION] said is quite spot on.
There is an interesting push-pull with you and the people in this thread. You both desire the interaction and seem to hate this same desire for the interaction.
It is not as if you yourself are unsalvagable and that your only recourse is to try plastic surgery in order to change the direction of your life. Your level of experience does not matter beyond the fact that it has become an excuse and a reason to not move forward.
I have read that the gates of Hell are locked from the inside. I think this can be very true with how we act within our own lives. The good news is that you have the power to shift your circumstances. The bad news is that you have the power.
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