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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    Have you tried switching to super dark chocolate so that you can get your chocolate fix in a small amount, and it is actually somewhat healthy?

    I think I started at 68% cocoa, then 70-75%, now I eat chocolate at 85% cocoa, and actually prefer it that way. I've become a chocolate snob and the regular kind is too sweet. And since it's so strong, I get my fill in a small amount. Also, it isn't addictive like milk chocolate is, because it is low in sugar.

    Good quality dark chocolate is also more flavorful. Like wine, the taste of the chocolate depends on the nutrients in the soil where the cocoa beans were grown. Volcanic soil, like in Madagascar, gives the chocolate a subtle fruity flavor, like red berries. I recommend trying some high quality Madagascar chocolate. Maybe start with 65% cocoa, see how you like it.

    Also, be sure to buy it somewhere that sells a lot of it. Sometimes little corner shops will sell it and it will be stale. Blech. Lindt and Ghirardelli are both pretty easy to find in grocery stores, and their dark chocolate is quite good considering how inexpensive it is.
    Oh yes. For a time I've replaced the initial chocolate consumption with dark chocolate and I've consumed quite the amount within the given time. There had also been a negotiation with a chocolatier to reduce the sugar content of the chocolate which made things a bit more wonderful. Was no trouble at all. I've mostly taken dark chocolate on an average of 75-85% cocoa I believe.

    The rich sweetness of milk chocolate being far too sweet to be able to enjoy is understood. Though it was greatly unfortunate that I went back into it when there had been a lack of dark chocolate at a particular time and the only available ones were milk chocolate. I gave in to the cravings. Felt something must be taken at the time and so I'd went and gotten myself out of the dark chocolate loop I'd been maintaining

    At the current moment I don't take chocolate at all. I went cold turkey on the stuff quite a while ago. I'd be slightly frightened to fall back into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    Oh yes. For a time I've replaced the initial chocolate consumption with dark chocolate and I've consumed quite the amount within the given time. There had also been a negotiation with a chocolatier to reduce the sugar content of the chocolate which made things a bit more wonderful. Was no trouble at all. I've mostly taken dark chocolate on an average of 75-85% cocoa I believe.

    The rich sweetness of milk chocolate being far too sweet to be able to enjoy is understood. Though it was greatly unfortunate that I went back into it when there had been a lack of dark chocolate at a particular time and the only available ones were milk chocolate. I gave in to the cravings. Felt something must be taken at the time and so I'd went and gotten myself out of the dark chocolate loop I'd been maintaining

    At the current moment I don't take chocolate at all. I went cold turkey on the stuff quite a while ago. I'd be slightly frightened to fall back into it.
    Oh wow, that's unfortunate. I'm at the point where I don't think I could go back to milk chocolate, especially the cheap kind you see everywhere. But I've always been able to find dark chocolate, so who knows what would happen if I went for a long time with milk chocolate as the only option. We have an entire section in the fridge filled with dark chocolate. I can see why you've decided to avoid it altogether, though.

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    blecch. I hate dark chocolate. Milk or white chocolate for me, please!

    EDIT: hanging in there, just craving Panda Express orange chicken, but not badly.

    How are you guys doing, for those who are on board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    Oh wow, that's unfortunate. I'm at the point where I don't think I could go back to milk chocolate, especially the cheap kind you see everywhere. But I've always been able to find dark chocolate, so who knows what would happen if I went for a long time with milk chocolate as the only option. We have an entire section in the fridge filled with dark chocolate. I can see why you've decided to avoid it altogether, though.
    You put great envy in me with your wonderful dark chocolate section in the fridge. Perhaps if I ever decide to go into my indulgence of chocolate again I'll prepare a similar setting for preparation.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    How are you guys doing, for those who are on board?
    I believe it's all been quite good. I've mainly had chicken (single chinese order), coffee and almonds today. Nothing too fancy. No sugars except for possible slight bit of added sugar with the chinese food I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Probably, sugar is a good source for a fast energy. If that's mostly what you are surviving on, your metabolism is fueled 24/7, but your body is mal-nourished. Hence the underweight, unless she is one of those people who will be 110 their entire life.

    Eating properly will replenish nourishment, and cause her to gain healthy weight and muscle tone. Any other sugar or fat, will be stored.
    My mom was like this when she was young. If you eat NOTHING but junk food (rather than eating junk food on top of meals, which is what makes most people overweight) you can indeed be underweight. It's because of the lack of nutrition and surprisingly little calories you're consuming if you don't eat your meals properly and only eat sugary snacks.

    However, it can be dangerous to do so. It's called being "skinny fat." You can get away with it while young, but this is part of the reason why a very thin person can end up with high cholesterol or other health problems. They've actually found fat between the internal organs of some people who look very slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    You put great envy in me with your wonderful dark chocolate section in the fridge. Perhaps if I ever decide to go into my indulgence of chocolate again I'll prepare a similar setting for preparation.
    Uh, sorry? Or... you're welcome?

    If you do, Lindt/Lindor has a good 70% bar and a good 85% bar; Ghirardelli has a good 75%(?) and a delicious 85% bar; and Trader Joe's has good 72% and 85% bars. The Trader Joe's bars come in a black wrapper with red (72%) or purple (85%) zigzags on them. Lindt and Ghirardelli bars can be found in most grocery stores.

    You can also find gourmet dark chocolate online. And if any of your friends go to Madagascar, ask them to bring you back some good quality dark chocolate.



    If you live in a big city, you can also find specialty stores that sell high quality dark chocolate. There's one in San Francisco that has Taste Test Tuesdays!


    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    I believe it's all been quite good. I've mainly had chicken (single chinese order), coffee and almonds today. Nothing too fancy. No sugars except for possible slight bit of added sugar with the chinese food I suppose.
    Careful with the Chinese food! It usually has way more carbs and sugar than you could ever imagine. Look it up before eating it, it will have more than you thought possible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    Uh, sorry? Or... you're welcome?

    If you do, Lindt/Lindor has a good 70% bar and a good 85% bar; Ghirardelli has a good 75%(?) and a delicious 85% bar; and Trader Joe's has good 72% and 85% bars. The Trader Joe's bars come in a black wrapper with red (72%) or purple (85%) zigzags on them. Lindt and Ghirardelli bars can be found in most grocery stores.

    You can also find gourmet dark chocolate online. And if any of your friends go to Madagascar, ask them to bring you back some good quality dark chocolate.



    If you live in a big city, you can also find specialty stores that sell high quality dark chocolate. There's one in San Francisco that has Taste Test Tuesdays!
    I am familiar with Lindt. In my dark chocolate phase I'd take the one with the mint flavour added. Quite liked those. I've taken the 85% cocoa bars whenever the mint was not around. I've seen the ghirardellis but have not given it a try. Never seen trader joes I believe.

    Yes, I've got my different options of specialty stores for chocolate and it would certainly be fun with an experimenting of the different types. Towards a future.

    Careful with the Chinese food! It usually has way more carbs and sugar than you could ever imagine. Look it up before eating it, it will have more than you thought possible!
    Hmmm, I'll certainly have a look. Made me a bit conscious of the matter. Might have to cut chinese out for good if things don't go too well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    I am familiar with Lindt. In my dark chocolate phase I'd take the one with the mint flavour added. Quite liked those. I've taken the 85% cocoa bars whenever the mint was not around. I've seen the ghirardellis but have not given it a try. Never seen trader joes I believe.

    Yes, I've got my different options of specialty stores for chocolate and it would certainly be fun with an experimenting of the different types. Towards a future.

    Hmmm, I'll certainly have a look. Made me a bit conscious of the matter. Might have to cut chinese out for good if things don't go too well.
    If you want to go sugarless, you just have to AVOID restaurants, period. They put sugar in some form or another on the simplest things. EVERYTHNG is contaminated with the shit. It's like the crack sugar industry has deployed mafiosos in every kitchen, holding a gun to every cook's head, forcing them to sprinkle sugar as they cook. I can't think of any other explanation.
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    Personally though, I'm going HARDCORE.

    No fruits.
    No starch, except in nuts. Not even legumes or beans.
    No artificial sweeteners
    No natural sweeteners
    No more chewable kids vitamins (pill form now)
    No sweetened toothpaste (got Tom's of Maine unsweetened kind)
    No sweet veggies like carrots

    Basically, I taste absolutely NOTHING sweet untl I pull this sweet tooth right out from the root.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    Personally though, I'm going HARDCORE.

    No fruits.
    No starch, except in nuts. Not even legumes or beans.
    No artificial sweeteners
    No natural sweeteners
    No more chewable kids vitamins (pill form now)
    No sweetened toothpaste (got Tom's of Maine unsweetened kind)
    No sweet veggies like carrots

    Basically, I taste absolutely NOTHING sweet untl I pull this sweet tooth right out from the root.
    Jeebus lady, that is hardcore!

    Whoaa...

    Well, day 2 of no sugar passed through me as easy as a morning bowel movement.

    Let's see what 2 more days feels like!

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