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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I hope you don't object to me saying so, Kat, but this looks to me like downright predatory behavior. This is controlling at a psycho level. It's like the leverage a kidnapper would use against his victim: "If you ever try to escape, I'll do X..."
    i have tried to tell her that for a long long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Kat View Post
    even though my life isn't exactly the true college life ).
    you seriously dont have any social benefit programs in holland that would keep you from starving if you moved out?
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    What would happen if you showed your parents this thread? I know you keep this forum a secret, but just use your imagination

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    You're far from fat.


    In the northern/west of Europe, yes, you'd be considered bigger than average. But who gives a rats ass, you look fantastic AND healthy.
    Most European females lack curves, even the clothes they sell are made for scrawny/ass-less surfboards.
    You look like a woman. Parents will always find something to pick at, just mark this as one of those things, set it aside, and light it on fire.

    My point is: Embrace your curves lady, its rare to come by!


    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Kat, your family is CRAAA-AAAA-ZZEEEEE!!!
    Whose family isn't?

    90% of the people on here have crazy families. She just has to find a way to deal with them that will suit her, without putting her in an uncomfortable position.


    Fuck moving out if you're worried about that. Get a job, save up, don't buy useless shiz. When you're a lot more financially independent, do whatever you like.

    I say withdraw more, keep to yourself, get a part-time job, don't listen to what they say, take advantage of having a place to stay/eat for free while you can focus on finishing college. Emotional abuse sucks, but you CAN block it out if you truly stop caring about what they say/think of you.

    It would suck more if you move out and you actually end up in financial trouble that you can't get out of. I'm not trying to worry you more, I'm just saying that for now, finishing school and being able to focus on it 100% should be your priority, without worrying about how you're going to make next months rent, cellphone bill, electricity bills, food, water,etc...

    If you believe you're capable of working, completely supporting yourself, WHILE going to school, then by all means, I think you should do that.

    Doesn't Holland have a student-finance program like Sweden? I'm not sure....

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    The BMI is an oversimplification, but still indicative of trends. The fact is that you probably aren't even overweight according to this metric.

    Some European data on obesity and mean BMI is here:
    http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_determ...ts/iotf_en.pdf

    According to the WHO, overweight is defined as 25-30, Obese is >30
    http://apps.who.int/bmi/index.jsp?in...e=intro_3.html
    (also has statistics on obesity)
    The mean BMI in the Netherlands is apparently 24.9.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6148456.stm

    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I'm an American of the Midwestern variety, which means that I know obese when I see obese, and you're not obese
    Yes, in many parts of America, she would be considered downright skinny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Architectonic View Post
    Yes, in many parts of America, she would be considered downright skinny.
    If she could but go to Walmart...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    If she could but go to Walmart...


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    i didn't even wanna open the thread because i assumed it was just enfp compliment fishing and maybe it is but from what i've heard you say in various threads is that you appreciate a fuller more voluptuous form and you seem very confident in your appearance...as you should so don't worry about your parents opinion and feel proud that you have a healthy self concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syndatha View Post
    What would happen if you showed your parents this thread? I know you keep this forum a secret, but just use your imagination
    "What are you doing on the internet?!:steam:"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i didn't even wanna open the thread because i assumed it was just enfp compliment fishing and maybe it is but from what i've heard you say in various threads is that you appreciate a fuller more voluptuous form and you seem very confident in your appearance...as you should so don't worry about your parents opinion and feel proud that you have a healthy self concept.
    ... I'm no ENFP, I'm ExTx leaning to S. Seriously. I have no emotions. At all. Completely apathetic. I just wanted to know if I should lose weight. I feel great about myself, but my parents keep nagging about it. It's driving me nuts, so on one hand I'd lose weight for them, but on the other hand I don't like myself skinnier.

    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    Doesn't Holland have a student-finance program like Sweden? I'm not sure....
    Yes, but it's nothing. I'd get 200-something euros a month if I moved out. I wouldn't even be able to pay the rent.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    you seriously dont have any social benefit programs in holland that would keep you from starving if you moved out?
    No. We have a rightwing government now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Kat View Post
    I have no emotions. At all. Completely apathetic.
    being an F is not about having intense emotions, its about making judgments by evaluating how you feel about it instead of based on deductive analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Kat View Post
    No. We have a rightwing government now.
    so left party has no saying on anything if there are more people from right wing in your government atm? or is it like that one party takes over the whole country and changes all laws after each election?
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