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    Drinking water is known to curb hunger as humans have a fairly weak sense of if they need water or food. Taking in water or food will diminish the perceived need for both.

    So drink less, increase apetite, eat more, gain weight, is plausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angell_m View Post
    I eat one meal a day, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. I continuesly drink on something. I eat nothing but fast food, pizza, hamburgers, subways, and I gorge myself with sugar content fluids all day. My BMI is 18-19. If you're skinny and want to gain weight, it's better to eat first, and then drink a glass when you're done, than drink continuesly throughout the day.

    I get what you mean. But it's easier to get the word through if I just say "Stop drinking."

    It's a military thing. So saying that it doesn't work, is like pissing on your own two legs.

    All the soldiers I saw that came through the recruit period, fat soldiers lost weight, skinny soldiers gained weight. And it was all because they were constantly active and couldn't grab that bottle whenever they wanted, or eat whenever they wanted. They drank water together, ate together, worked out together. The ones that drank less (skinny people) ate more when the day was over, and the ones that drank more (fat people) ate less when the day was over.

    You need to be able to meet me half-way in the conversation, not just look at it in colors of black and white.
    I was in the military too, I gained weight in basic training but it was all muscle mass. This time I just want to fatten up for baby! If I had a choice I'd like all the weight to go to my chest, but eh, what can you do. I'll settle with an even weight distribution.

    I have a normal appetite for food and drinks. I get enough calories. I'm 19 on the bmi. I just do not gain weight, partially metabolism and partially I eat extremely healthy...not a conscious choice, it's just food that I like. For the most part I only eat seafood, veg, fruit. No bread, pasta, cheese, meat for the most part. Every once in a while but it's not a part of my daily diet. I recently got into cooking with cream so that may help to add some calories in.

    I can see taking out drinking water if it was an abnormal amount of water a day, I don't drink that much. That 11 glasses a day stuff is mainly bs and I've never prescribed to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tewt View Post
    I was in the military too, I gained weight in basic training but it was all muscle mass. This time I just want to fatten up for baby! If I had a choice I'd like all the weight to go to my chest, but eh, what can you do. I'll settle with an even weight distribution.

    I have a normal appetite for food and drinks. I get enough calories. I'm 19 on the bmi. I just do not gain weight, partially metabolism and partially I eat extremely healthy...not a conscious choice, it's just food that I like. For the most part I only eat seafood, veg, fruit. No bread, pasta, cheese, meat for the most part. Every once in a while but it's not a part of my daily diet. I recently got into cooking with cream so that may help to add some calories in.

    I can see taking out drinking water if it was an abnormal amount of water a day, I don't drink that much. That 11 glasses a day stuff is mainly bs and I've never prescribed to that.
    No bread? It sounds like you aren't eating carbs at all. You're going to have to eat carbs if you want to get pregnant. Whole grain bread. Brown rice. High fiber, low sugar cereals. This may be a part of your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    No bread? It sounds like you aren't eating carbs at all. You're going to have to eat carbs if you want to get pregnant. Whole grain bread. Brown rice. High fiber, low sugar cereals. This may be a part of your problem.
    I eat those and beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tewt View Post
    I eat those and beans.
    Ok good. Just make sure you're eating enough grains. Low-carb and pregnancy aren't compatible, and you're certainly not going to put on weight if you're doing a low carb diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tewt View Post
    I was in the military too, I gained weight in basic training but it was all muscle mass. This time I just want to fatten up for baby! If I had a choice I'd like all the weight to go to my chest, but eh, what can you do. I'll settle with an even weight distribution.

    I have a normal appetite for food and drinks. I get enough calories. I'm 19 on the bmi. I just do not gain weight, partially metabolism and partially I eat extremely healthy...not a conscious choice, it's just food that I like. For the most part I only eat seafood, veg, fruit. No bread, pasta, cheese, meat for the most part. Every once in a while but it's not a part of my daily diet. I recently got into cooking with cream so that may help to add some calories in.

    I can see taking out drinking water if it was an abnormal amount of water a day, I don't drink that much. That 11 glasses a day stuff is mainly bs and I've never prescribed to that.
    Well you seem like you got a hold of things much better than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Eat a big mac or two everyday, you'll gain weight in no time.
    I doubt it.

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    ^ oh great.

    I was definitely banking on that old news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Yeesh, I should be a nutritionist, I could have told anyone that! The static 3,500 calorie per pound of fat model is still quite accurate as a baseline, but people greatly underestimate the metabolite effect. The man in the graph would follow the weight of the traditional model if his metabolism never adjusted to the additional calories.

    Ever wonder why urine can be dark (almost even glowing, lol) after having one too many vitamin tablets? I believe it's because once the saturation level for a certain vitamin or nutrient is reached, the body treats it like waste... it really has nowhere else to go since it's in such excess. The same applies to calories and metabolism to a degree, the body attempts to "use" as much of the additional calories as possible to the point of saturation (over the finite period of digestion) and then converts the remainder to fat.

    So he would be gaining fat at the rate of 3,500kcals/lb. the very first time he ate the cookie, and then at an exponentially slower rate every subsequent time as his metabolism adjusted to utilize the additional calories. It's also why extreme cases of obesity (400+ lbs) the person continues to consume enormous amounts of calories each day but does not gain nearly as much weight as a healthy person would from eating the same thing. Even though they hardly move, their metabolism is probably incredibly high. It would have to be to digest so much food. Sadly, in extreme cases they tend to continue eating so much that the sheer gross intake (no pun intended, lol) overtakes even the adjusted metabolism, and over a period of many years they get fatter and fatter.

    The reason people trying to lose weight quickly never works is because they cut calories too much, their metabolism slows down (semi-starvation mode) to adjust. because their malnourished, the body breaks down lean tissue for nutrients. then, when they crack and cheat on their diet, the body sucks up every bit of calories in the unhealthy food and has way more than it "thinks" it needs and converts a lot of it to fat, causing the yo-yo effect. anorexics are sort of like extremely obese but in an opposite context.

    relevant point here: when trying to lose or gain weight, it's just as important to consider the metabolic effect of the quantity and type of food youre eating as the net calorie loss or gain. to lose fat one should actually eat about the same amount of calories but eat more fibery vegetables, fruit, and lean protein (bird meat rocks!) this keeps the metabolism stimulated, then you can add moderate exercise and maintain the fat burning effect of a full, healthy metabolism.

    to gain fat, it's a bit more complicated but you can trick your metabolism... i've never tried this, but you may try experimenting by eating less in the morning--quick burning calories like sugar, think candy bar instead of oatmeal--to keep the metabolism slow, then very late in the day you can load up on carbs (icecream!) since your metabolism will drop even lower when you sleep, you'll hit the saturation level easily and the rest will have nowhere else to go except fat deposit. instead of eating lots of regular meals, eat irregularly to give your metabolism lots of calories to process when its not "programmed" to expect them. also, try varying your overall calorie intake day to day... try eating 4/3 or 5/3 your regular portion every 4th day or something. anyone trying to burn fat best do the opposite of all that, program your metabolism to burn high as much as possible (and make sure eat plenty of nutritious foods to keep lean tissue intact).

    Goooodluck!

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    I've had the same issue of not being able to gain weight. If you really want to know what's going on, find out how many calories it takes to run your body. Then see how many calories you consume. You'll probably find you're eating far less than your body needs to run efficiently. This is a motivational tool as well as science. Besides that, work hard. Eat the right things and you'll develop an appetite. Sometimes you have to have an epic food battle to get it down.

    Edit: To expand upon the undereating theme: the OP probably can't gain weight because their metabolism is out of whack from not eating enough. This isn't bad, this isn't intentional. Some people just have sparse eating habits, over time this can cause the metabolism to do odd things. Hitting your target caloric intake for about a month can put you back normal.

    I don't believe in diets, I don't believe in fads. I just believe in giving the body what it needs to function correctly.
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