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    I am not overweight but I have been feeling a bit disgusting for some reason. However, if I lived in Korea, I would probably be considered pretty "fat" 90 lbs at 5' from what I have read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    I'm not sure what it is about people that makes them want, so badly, to continuously put themselves down when it comes to the esteem of their figures.
    No wanting. If you believe there is a significant problem, you feel a need to address it. I don't think such a thing is usually considered an act of wanting, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    I'm not sure what it is about people that makes them want, so badly, to continuously put themselves down when it comes to the esteem of their figures.
    Is it not ridiculous? Pursuit of a spectre that is desired by no one? I've never "got it" but I've seen people "chasing the dragon" for decades. It's really sick, actually. Get real people. SRSLY!
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    It's not surprising most women are hard on themselves when non-fat actresses like Jennifer Love Hewitt and Mischa Barton are absolutely crucified in magazines for being a 6 instead of a 2, and for having a little cellulite. The average woman might infer from that that she's "disgusting," or a "fat-ass," too, if her body looks more like those pictures than the Hollywood ideal, where it's not acceptable to have any body fat at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    No wanting. If you believe there is a significant problem, you feel a need to address it. I don't think such a thing is usually considered an act of wanting, though.
    Poor choice of language to you, maybe, but I feel there must be a degree of want.. If you didn't want to, at least a tiny bit, think of yourself as fat.. then either you'd have to accept that you're not, or have a doctor tell you you are, in which case you'd simply correct it.

    Seriously, I don't know how many women I come across that are fine.. maybe they need to gain strength.. but this is never a concern. It's always how they look, not whether the weight they own is muscle or fat. It's okay to have a ridiculously high body fat percentage as long as you look good with it. I don't understand the standards of health women have. Girls in aerobics class carrying 1lb dumbbells because they were scared of getting 'fat' from muscle.

    I got a lot of ridicule when I said I wanted to lose weight. It wasn't that I was at an unhealthy weight.. only that I wasn't strong, and I was being lazy and unhealthy. Everyone, though, was worried that I was being hard on myself, that I was thinking of myself as fat even though I wasn't. The worry people have that this mental virus of women being fat in my family was in my head was all over the place until they saw me just lose the weight I wanted to, and maintain my health and eating habits. Only then did they calm down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Is it not ridiculous? Pursuit of a spectre that is desired by no one? I've never "got it" but I've seen people "chasing the dragon" for decades. It's really sick, actually. Get real people. SRSLY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    It's not surprising most women are hard on themselves when non-fat actresses like Jennifer Love Hewitt and Mischa Barton are absolutely crucified in magazines for being a 6 instead of a 2, and for having a little cellulite. The average woman might infer from that that she's "disgusting," or a "fat-ass," too, if her body looks more like those pictures than the Hollywood ideal, where it's not acceptable to have any body fat at all.
    I understand that mentality, until you realize 1. They get paid for their looks and body to an extent. They're actors. The way they look plays a big role in their careers. Most people are not actors, however. 2. How down on yourself do you have to be already to allow some stranger that wrote an article in a magazine about someone else to have a dramatic effect on you and the way you preceive yourself?

    I hate to pick on Domino when she's not here lately.. but that woman is beautiful. I haven't met anyone on here that hasn't thought so. And yet, of the thousands of compliments that she receives from people who care, it only takes one from someone who doesn't to make her frown. It's a vicious thing... One that I cannot possibly begin to understand, to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    I understand that mentality, until you realize 1. They get paid for their looks and body to an extent. They're actors. The way they look plays a big role in their careers. Most people are not actors, however. 2. How down on yourself do you have to be already to allow some stranger that wrote an article in a magazine about someone else to have a dramatic effect on you and the way you preceive yourself?

    I hate to pick on Domino when she's not here lately.. but that woman is beautiful. I haven't met anyone on here that hasn't thought so. And yet, of the thousands of compliments that she receives from people who care, it only takes one from someone who doesn't to make her frown. It's a vicious thing... One that I cannot possibly begin to understand, to be honest.
    I just think it cannot help but bleed over into the general public's perception of themselves. I don't think it's unusual at all these days for women to think to themselves, "Well, if people think SHE looks hideous in a bikini and she's rich and famous and beautiful, how must I look?" It's not healthy, but it happens, and we do buy into these expectations. No one wants to look at "real women" in magazines. They say they do, but they don't.

    The flip side is that there are some folks who are naturally as skinny as that model someone posted, and can't gain weight if they try. I don't think we need to vilify one person's body type to glorify another. I think we need more acceptance of all body types, and more acceptance of the fact that some of us might be fit but not muscle-y, and some of us might have cellulite, and some of us might be naturally thin on the upper half where (gasp!) you can see a rib poking out, and some of us might gain weight but not get huge boobs, etc. It's funny that when people try to be "accepting of real women," all they really mean is that they want to see women who are a few pounds heavier than stick figure size, who gain weight evenly, still look uber-fit, and just have boobs and a little bit of a butt. In other words, something like the still-unattainable ideal of a Salma Hayek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post

    I got a lot of ridicule when I said I wanted to lose weight. It wasn't that I was at an unhealthy weight.. only that I wasn't strong, and I was being lazy and unhealthy. Everyone, though, was worried that I was being hard on myself, that I was thinking of myself as fat even though I wasn't. The worry people have that this mental virus of women being fat in my family was in my head was all over the place until they saw me just lose the weight I wanted to, and maintain my health and eating habits. Only then did they calm down.
    Right now this how I feel. I feel best in the low 80's and I have let myself go in eating heathy. If I personally go up to 95-100 lbs, I feel extremely sluggish and unhealthy. What may be anorexic for one person, may be someone's optimum.

    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    I hate to pick on Domino when she's not here lately.. but that woman is beautiful. I haven't met anyone on here that hasn't thought so. And yet, of the thousands of compliments that she receives from people who care, it only takes one from someone who doesn't to make her frown. It's a vicious thing... One that I cannot possibly begin to understand, to be honest.
    yeah, I agree. She's definitely up there. Many females would kill to look like her.

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    I'm starting to think I should just make a whole thread on low self-esteem and self-deprecation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I'm starting to think I should just make a whole thread on low self-esteem and self-deprecation.
    haha, I think that sounds like a splendid idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    Right now this how I feel. I feel best in the low 80's and I have let myself go in eating heathy. If I personally go up to 95-100 lbs, I feel extremely sluggish and unhealthy. What may be anorexic for one person, may be someone's optimum.
    This is cooresponding well with Tall's "accept all body types" thing. I agree entirely. What's healthy for you should be healthy. Doctor approved should be people approved, imo.

    I'm the exact opposite, I get told by the army all the time that I need to be taped for my body fat percentage. I don't look nearly what I weigh, people always guess I'm 110-120 (Although I think 60% of that is them being nice and picking safe numbers ) and then get shocked when I tell them I'm usually 135-140. 130 lbs. when I'm at my leanest and hitting the weights a lot. 120 lbs. made me look so sickly and thin people thought I had contracted a virus overseas when I came home. It's just the body type and how the weight works on you.
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