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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post

    Bottom line is do you feel ok? Blood tests when dealing with thyroid (or any hormone for that matter) are poor indicators of health. Blood tests for thyroid are notoriously bad, especially when you're being treated. This is one of those fields of medicine where you used to be better treated 50 years ago.

    Edited to add: have you ever had your vitamin D levels tested? Do you take Vitamin D?
    Hello, now you've got me wondering. How are the tests different from 50 years ago? Are you saying the present blood test isn't very sensitive? I have low energy and get SAD, although I don't have the brittle hair and nails someone else mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    As someone who's Been There, Done That, I feel for you, Targo. Are you in BC? If yes, and you have a doctor who's admitted you have a thyroid problem, then you're ahead of the game. BC doctors and hormones = usually a bad scene.

    Weight loss isn't rocket science, if you cut the calories you lose weight (not necessarily fat, but weight does move). I spent years killing myself with exercise and diet trying to maintain my weight; I thought I just needed to work harder.

    From what I recall you're active and you're pretty young. If you're having THAT much difficulty with weight loss then you can assume Something Ain't Right.

    Questions for you, they may seem silly, but humour me.

    Do you have 'abnormal' cholesterol results?
    Do you have problems sleeping? Or are you tired when you wake up?
    Have you noticed your eyebrows getting thinner?
    Do you have irregular periods?

    Bottom line is do you feel ok? Blood tests when dealing with thyroid (or any hormone for that matter) are poor indicators of health. Blood tests for thyroid are notoriously bad, especially when you're being treated. This is one of those fields of medicine where you used to be better treated 50 years ago.

    Edited to add: have you ever had your vitamin D levels tested? Do you take Vitamin D? If you don't and if you do live in BC it's something to seriously consider.

    you're amazing THANK YOU! My doctor is great I can walk into her office and say DrWang I think blah blah blah because blah blah blah should we look into that and she will say alright.... she's been my DR for 12 yrs now I only go in and ask stuff when I am certain there is a problem or when I have concerns.

    I don't take a vitamin D supplement but i do drink milk and am outside often. My body is pretty good at craving it's deficiencies.

    I do know that my iron levels typically run low I have had those tested. Did you know that you can get an energy rush from Iron supplements?

    As for your questions


    Do you have 'abnormal' cholesterol results? being 33 I haven't had it tested

    Do you have problems sleeping? Or are you tired when you wake up? Yes sleep has always been an issue for me.... never want to sleep yet am always tired.

    Have you noticed your eyebrows getting thinner? I pluck them pretty thin as it is..... and i am just super hairy to begin with so I don't know.

    Do you have irregular periods? they are starting to become that way since having my 4th child not super irregular but not consistent either.


    it's the weight loss that is my red flag
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    my big concern is that 3 yrs ago over the summer of 2004 I made a big effort to lose some weight I was walking only, about an hour 3-5times a week and cutting back on my carb intake but not changing things over and still snacking as i do now and having my coffee way sweeter than it is now and way more of it. And over the course of the summer I lost 30lbs I was fasting 1 day a week as well for church but still I was drinking juices and broth so it wasn't a complete fast.

    But here i am 3 yrs later working way harder and eating way better and in the course of 5 months I have lost only 20lbs and 15 of it was the 15 I had gained back over 3 yrs. It's discouraging and disheartening to say the least and so now I feel the need to dig for a medical reason so I don't feel crazy and so I feel vindicated in my efforts instead of thinking I am just not good enough....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jae Rae View Post
    Hello, now you've got me wondering. How are the tests different from 50 years ago? Are you saying the present blood test isn't very sensitive? I have low energy and get SAD, although I don't have the brittle hair and nails someone else mentioned.

    Jae Rae
    Jae Rae, 50 years ago doctors gave you thyroid replacement hormone until you went hyper then backed you down to where you felt good. A very few good doctors use this method today, still, think of it as "optimal" vs. "normal".

    Blood tests have a few problems, the primary one being that what is defined as 'normal' is skewed. In today's world "normal' contains sick people. Sensitivity isn't an issue, what is measured and what it is measured against, are.

    Then you have doctors who test thyroid function with a TSH test - which isn't good for much other than first diagnosing auto immune thyroid disease. The 'normal' range for TSH runs anywhere from 0.2 - 5.5. That's because the group of 'normal' people contain 75 year old subclinical hypothyroid women. The range in progressive US labs has been changed to 0.2 - 2.7 (or there abouts, it has been narrowed a lot in the last few years). Bottom line from people who're being well treated, TSH is meaningless. I haven't had a TSH number for years (it was < 0.0001 last time it was tested).

    As well, blood tests measure what's in your blood, not what's being used or what is useable. That's a big difference when it comes to normal vs optimal.

    In your case, with the tiredness and the SAD, I would definitely look into vitamin D. It's been shown to be superior to light therapy for SAD and a very little known fact about vit D; it isn't a vitamin at all, it's a hormone precursor. It's also necessary for proper thyroid and progesterone hormone function.

    Anyone living over a latitude of 40 degrees should be taking supplemental vitamin D. Just about every Canadian city is over 40 degrees latitude, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    I don't take a vitamin D supplement but i do drink milk and am outside often. My body is pretty good at craving it's deficiencies.

    I do know that my iron levels typically run low I have had those tested. Did you know that you can get an energy rush from Iron supplements?
    Are you in BC? If you are - for some reason I think you are, don't know for sure though - then it would be physically impossible for you to make enough vit D from the sunlight available even if you danced outside on June 22nd naked from 11 - 3 pm. You might get a nasty burn though (not to mention what it might do for your popularity among the neighbours )

    From Weston Price (Vancouver is 49 degrees if memory serves):

    In far northern or southern locations, latitudes 45 and higher, even summer sun is too weak to provide optimum levels of vitamin D.
    As for food sources - if you're eating cod or drinking cod liver oil daily - or eating liver - it's hard to get 2,000 IUs of vit D from food.

    Interesting about the iron. Ferritin is necessary for thyroid function. Just as necessary as vitamin D. And selenium. And iodine.


    Do you have 'abnormal' cholesterol results? being 33 I haven't had it tested
    I would lay money on it being abnormal. Which isn't alarming, just a sign of something else. High cholesterol ain't a risk factor for VCD, but inflammation is.

    Do you have problems sleeping? Or are you tired when you wake up? Yes sleep has always been an issue for me.... never want to sleep yet am always tired.
    That sounds right. Low iron / ferritin would contribute. Messed up sleep cycles affect hormones (not in a good way)

    it's the weight loss that is my red flag
    Honestly, that's respectable weight loss. I just think the means you need to go to in order to achieve it are extreme. I lose weight now restricting calories to around 1800 and doing 20 minutes cardio twice a week, two full body workouts (heavy mind you) a week. It used to take me 5 hours of cardio and four one hour weight workouts a week on 1200 cals to maintain. "Ain't Right"

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    yes i am in BC southern BC but BC just the same

    Now are all vitamin D's created equal as i have a multi vitamin with D-Pantothenic 12.5mg (d-calcium pantothenate)
    as well as Vitamin D 400 I.U
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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    my big concern is that 3 yrs ago over the summer of 2004 I made a big effort to lose some weight I was walking only, about an hour 3-5times a week and cutting back on my carb intake but not changing things over and still snacking as i do now and having my coffee way sweeter than it is now and way more of it. And over the course of the summer I lost 30lbs I was fasting 1 day a week as well for church but still I was drinking juices and broth so it wasn't a complete fast.

    But here i am 3 yrs later working way harder and eating way better and in the course of 5 months I have lost only 20lbs and 15 of it was the 15 I had gained back over 3 yrs. It's discouraging and disheartening to say the least and so now I feel the need to dig for a medical reason so I don't feel crazy and so I feel vindicated in my efforts instead of thinking I am just not good enough....
    You're not crazy, and more importantly, you're not LAZY.

    My gut says the fast you were doing in 2004 made more of a difference than you may know. Fasting improves insulin sensitivity - at a molecular level. A fast with broth, with some fats, even some protein, does the same (just avoid the carbs and it's a fast, keep the cals really low though, or it's just low carb )

    Do you have any idea just how many calories you are eating? If not, FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal can help you figure out a few typical days. The calories aren't the only story, what they are made of matters. You need the protein grams and you need the essential fats, the rest depends on your genetic makeup and what makes you feel the most comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    yes i am in BC southern BC but BC just the same

    Now are all vitamin D's created equal as i have a multi vitamin with D-Pantothenic 12.5mg (d-calcium pantothenate)
    as well as Vitamin D 400 I.U
    Vit D is either D2 or D3, one is synthetic (d2) one is not. You always want to supplement with D3. And if you can get the lovely Dr.Wang to test you... that would be even better. The test is called "25(OH)D" and I know for a fact it's done there (and covered).

    Read the weston price article on Vitamin D. You'll see some interesting symptoms of low levels.

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    well I see my account is still there... I haven't used it in a long time I really should look at it again

    thanks
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    it's one a day and it doesn't specify a D2 or D3 on it
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