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    about those scientific studies. They actually indicate that it's not bad to be fat (especially one by epidemologist Katherine Flegal).
    The reason I think fat people are being scapegoated is the one thing that poor americans consume (or just appear to consume) more of is unhealthy food. Which means that in the U.S now skinniness is undoubtedly a status symbol!
    Which why I think this is about singling out people much more than it ever might've been about compassion.

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    I read that a "beer belly" is what causes long-term cardiovascular problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I read that a "beer belly" is what causes long-term cardiovascular problems.
    Or, the propensity toward forming a beer-belly is caused by the same underlying systemic conditions that also lead to cardiovascular problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I read that a "beer belly" is what causes long-term cardiovascular problems.
    beer belly is essentially affect hip to waist ratio which has been correlated to increase risk of cardiovascular disease. No causation can be made at this point.

    Back to obesity myth... I don't get why genes can only be passed on the maternal side. That doesn't make much sense from the genetics point of view... unless it's a difference in mitochrondria dna?

    I'm uhhh underweight accord to the norms. 5'3" and 90ish pounds. I tried stuffing myself... it makes no difference. I get my skinniness from my father's side... he and one of my aunts are thin. Not sure how that fits into the model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Back to obesity myth... I don't get why genes can only be passed on the maternal side. That doesn't make much sense from the genetics point of view... unless it's a difference in mitochrondria dna?

    I'm uhhh underweight accord to the norms. 5'3" and 90ish pounds. I tried stuffing myself... it makes no difference. I get my skinniness from my father's side... he and one of my aunts are thin. Not sure how that fits into the model.
    Well, mitochondria are an integral part of respiration for complex multicellular life forms...

    Don't get too concerned about being too skinny either, just make sure you're not letting your sugar, iron, and B vitamins get too low...
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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    Well, mitochondria are an integral part of respiration for complex multicellular life forms...

    Don't get too concerned about being too skinny either, just make sure you're not letting your sugar, iron, and B vitamins get too low...
    True... and its also the only "genes" that are passed purely from mother to child. Although multiple/no set number of different copies of mitochondria dna are passed on during cell divisions... Hmmmm also probably a ton of other factors involved. Whatever! It's not worth wasting brain cells over.

    Oh... and runvardh...

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    Ohhhh Goodie! I love statistics!

    The question of obesity causing disease is tough to answer but it is RELATED to disease. The problem is that what actually causes the disease may also CAUSE obesity. This reminds me of the questions from grade school about smorfs being blue and all smorfs are wags... are all wags blue? I don't know...

    If you're "obese" because you have a naturally big body you do not have the same health risks as someone who is "obese" because they like McDonalds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe View Post
    ..is the name of a book from 2005 about how 'obesity' was never a serious health risk, and how it's all just an excuse to rag on fat people. (which I have always suspected)

    what do you think?
    I think Henry pleads guilty.

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    Being ridiculously fat does lead to greater health risks- like it or not.
    It's not good to go to the other extreme either, of course.
    However, being very fat is not considered healthy by any standard!!

    The author of the book seems to be considering the consequences to be the cause.. which is poor logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    Being ridiculously fat does lead to greater health risks- like it or not.
    It's not good to go to the other extreme either, of course.
    However, being very fat is not considered healthy by any standard!!

    The author of the book seems to be considering the consequences to be the cause.. which is poor logic.
    The consequence is the cause.

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