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    Quote Originally Posted by Unkindloving View Post
    Not eating enough can contribute to weight gain, because your body will cling to what you put in it. Your body probably just needs to get used to you eating enough, before it can better help your weightloss. I don't think that takes long, just be aware of what you omnom.

    I take a class where I burn 900-1100cals. I have to eat up to 2100cals on those days, but I've still lost a good chunk of weight.
    If I didn't eat upwards of 2100cals on those days, my weightloss would likely be much slower and I'd be much weaker. I'm not sure on this, but I think loosing weight while not eating enough doesn't help the aesthetic of your body composition.
    I don't take any classes, my schedule is far too confusing/stupid/blah for me to do anything, so all I'm doing is walking around campus with a stupid backpack. However, I've probably doubled the amount I eat on a normal day, up to what most people think is a "normal" amount of food.

    Also, I think spinach makes me fat.
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    A neat article on food addiction:

    Junkie food: Tastes your brain can't resist - health - 08 September 2010 - New Scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I look down at what I'm eating and realize it's not really that much. It makes me think I'm meant to be fat. After all, I come from a long line of fat people.

    It doesn't matter. Eating makes me fat. Maybe I should stop again.
    It's also possible that these "long line of fat people" simply share and have passed to you the same bad behaviors.

    If you decide you want some outside opinion on what you are eating, the offer still stands.

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    Oh my god, I knew my parents abused me! Fat people all along the line are just a cycle of child abuse.

    God I hate my life.

    Let's see, here's what I ate yesterday:

    A few homefries
    cereal and skim milk
    chocolate milk

    spinach salad
    brownie
    penne + pesto
    6 oz coke

    greek yogurt + honey
    V8 fruit juice
    .5 serving goldfish

    And today:

    Whole wheat bread (1 slice)
    1/2 nutella, 1/2 peanut butter
    1% milk

    2/3 pasta carbonara
    spinach salad
    1 slice turkey meat
    cranberry juice

    That's already way too much, isn't it? I probably just shouldn't eat anything the rest of the day. I keep hearing that I should drink water or tea with meals, but if I do that I won't eat -- I can't eat if I don't have a drink that's cold and flavored. I just can't, it just makes the food completely unbearable to force down my throat. In fact, that would be a really good diet! I just would end up not eating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Let's see, here's what I ate yesterday
    Approx Yesterday: 1400-1600cals. This is normal and not bad, especially if you are walking.

    Approx Today: 900-1100.

    You should really throw stuff into calorie counters to put it into perspective. It's very helpful and you shouldn't beat yourself up for eating. You already seem to make good food choices. The few snacks and things are just that, and won't obliterate your diet.

    Water is definitely good for you, but it can take getting used to. Maybe invest in some iced tea mix, so you know you're using the water and mix and can gradually ween down the mix.
    If you can't do that yet, just work on the eating first. Everyone has a pattern for how they cycle out bad habits and cycle in good ones. Personally, I couldn't cycle out my bad eating habits until I cycled in a good exercise routine. Etc Everyone is different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
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    Yes, most definitely. If it helps motivate you, consider your workout as part of your "work day". Meaning, consider your workout as part of your daily routine, and as soon as you get home from work, work out. It helps me with about 80% of my workouts, so I only gotta motivate myself for the remaining 20%.
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    Good idea.
    That might just work for me.

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    went to the Tuesday cardio class at the school--this time it was step aerobics. Good workout, though step really elevates my heart rate a lot, and I don't like the feeling. I modified by doing lower arm movements or just the legs. Tomorrow's Zumba!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Oh my god, I knew my parents abused me! Fat people all along the line are just a cycle of child abuse.
    Hap, I would appreciate it if you don't twist my words like that. That's not what I meant, and you know it.

    Let's see, here's what I ate yesterday:

    A few homefries
    cereal and skim milk
    chocolate milk

    spinach salad
    brownie
    penne + pesto
    6 oz coke

    greek yogurt + honey
    V8 fruit juice
    .5 serving goldfish

    And today:

    Whole wheat bread (1 slice)
    1/2 nutella, 1/2 peanut butter
    1% milk

    2/3 pasta carbonara
    spinach salad
    1 slice turkey meat
    cranberry juice
    I can definitely see some issues with this diet.

    The question is, do you want an analysis, would you rather me make 1 or 2 SIMPLE suggestions to try, or would you prefer me to stay quiet?

    That's already way too much, isn't it? I probably just shouldn't eat anything the rest of the day. I keep hearing that I should drink water or tea with meals, but if I do that I won't eat -- I can't eat if I don't have a drink that's cold and flavored. I just can't, it just makes the food completely unbearable to force down my throat. In fact, that would be a really good diet! I just would end up not eating!
    Why can't you force down food unless you have a flavored (aka sugary) drink? How does a sugary drink help you when a nice cold glass of unsweetened tea or water fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    went to the Tuesday cardio class at the school--this time it was step aerobics. Good workout, though step really elevates my heart rate a lot, and I don't like the feeling. I modified by doing lower arm movements or just the legs. Tomorrow's Zumba!
    Ooo... please report how it goes, either here or in the Zumba thread.

    I'll be over at my mom's this weekend, which means a different gym with different classes. I get to choose between Zumba and BodyCombat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I can definitely see some issues with this diet.

    The question is, do you want an analysis, would you rather me make 1 or 2 SIMPLE suggestions to try, or would you prefer me to stay quiet?
    I don't know. I really don't know. Ever since I tried to be "healthier" I've never felt as weak, sick, and neurotic as I do now. No matter what I do, I FEEL horrible. And it just gets worse and worse. I know it's wrong to say that I wasn't a neurotic little bitch before, but it was never like this.


    Why can't you force down food unless you have a flavored (aka sugary) drink? How does a sugary drink help you when a nice cold glass of unsweetened tea or water fails?
    I secretly hate food and want to get the taste out of my mouth with every bite I take. Water and unsweetened tea are not strong enough to get the taste out (they make it worse before it's better) while strong-tasting beverages do. Except coffee. Because coffee's gross.

    But this is a horrible answer even though it's the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I don't know. I really don't know. Ever since I tried to be "healthier" I've never felt as weak, sick, and neurotic as I do now. No matter what I do, I FEEL horrible. And it just gets worse and worse. I know it's wrong to say that I wasn't a neurotic little bitch before, but it was never like this.
    I guess I don't see you like that. I see someone who is really frustrated, at least a little scared, and very frustrated... but neurotic bitch? Naw. It's just where you are right now. And you know what? There's no hole that can't be climbed out of with persistence. You just gotta have faith that there's a way out, and persistence to keep on trying until you find it.

    Hap, while I know you have medical issues that go beyond my scope of knowledge, in general, your diet is probably part of the issue. Your diet consists of WAY too much sugar, not enough lean protein, and not enough veggies. (The only real veggie that you eat is the spinach salad.)

    Here are some simple suggestions:

    1. Replace the breakfast sugary sweets with fruit. So instead of chocolate milk or nutella, chase your food with pineapple, strawberries, or another fruit.

    2. Limit lunch and dinner to 1 sugary sweet each. So you can have the brownie OR the Coke, but not both.

    3. Use the calories you save by reducing your sweets to add a lean protein. Examples include: Chicken (baked or grilled), turkey slices, beans, low-fat cheese (including string cheese and cottage cheese). It need not be much. 1/2 cup of a lean protein will do for starters.

    Don't make any other changes.

    Do those sound doable?

    I secretly hate food and want to get the taste out of my mouth with every bite I take. Water and unsweetened tea are not strong enough to get the taste out (they make it worse before it's better) while strong-tasting beverages do. Except coffee. Because coffee's gross.

    But this is a horrible answer even though it's the truth.
    No, it's an enlightening answer.

    Do you hate the taste of food, or hate the fact that you have to eat it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I guess I don't see you like that. I see someone who is really frustrated, at least a little scared, and very frustrated... but neurotic bitch? Naw. It's just where you are right now. And you know what? There's no hole that can't be climbed out of with persistence. You just gotta have faith that there's a way out, and persistence to keep on trying until you find it.

    Hap, while I know you have medical issues that go beyond my scope of knowledge, in general, your diet is probably part of the issue. Your diet consists of WAY too much sugar, not enough lean protein, and not enough veggies. (The only real veggie that you eat is the spinach salad.)

    Here are some simple suggestions:

    1. Replace the breakfast sugary sweets with fruit. So instead of chocolate milk or nutella, chase your food with pineapple, strawberries, or another fruit.

    2. Limit lunch and dinner to 1 sugary sweet each. So you can have the brownie OR the Coke, but not both.

    3. Use the calories you save my reducing your sweets to add a lean protein. Examples include: Chicken (baked or grilled), turkey slices, beans, low-fat cheese (including string cheese and cottage cheese). It need not be much. 1/2 cup of a lean protein will do for starters.

    Don't make any other changes.

    Do those sound doable?



    No, it's an enlightening answer.

    Do you hate the taste of food, or hate the fact that you have to eat it?
    1. there is no (un-horrifically-bruised) fruit here

    2. there is no lean protein, either

    So no, they don't sound doable. Life kinda sucks when you're po' and can only use your meal card.



    Eating requires me to cleanse my palate very often. My throat gets sticky with things that taste and with each consecutive bite it tastes worse. It takes an entire glass of water to cleanse the palate of this... gunky crap in the back of my throat. That would be 20 glasses of water or so each meal. Do you really expect me to do that? I hate that food does this to me. I don't eat unless I also have something flavored to drink. Otherwise it lingers in the back of my mouth for hours. I wish I was able to just wash it out with water like normal people can, but water just isn't strong enough.

    Maybe I should use listerine instead.
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