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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    ... actually all anti depressants or anxiety meds mess with your endocrine system which can't be good for your health can it?
    So what's your solution for extreme depression or extreme anxiety disorders, Dr. Synapse?
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    More pills!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    More pills!
    My guess is that he/she will say something about God in response.

    *waits for it*
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    People who are suffering need medication. Back in the day, people actually lost function through things like depression and panic long-term, and it seriously impacted the quality of their lives. And for people for even more serious conditions, they were often hospitalized or committed suicide. Not only that, but the newer medications work better than the ones from 30 or 40 years ago. That's why I get annoyed with people who have their little opinions like Synapse (nothing personal S.) because they obviously don't understand what it's like to actually need medication, and reflect upon how people with my condition were treated even within the last fifty years.

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    None taken, I used to think like you once. You'd be wrong that I'm advocating completely away from meds, they do offer some help and relief often times just a bandage that can exacerbate issues later in life.

    And nope Haight you'd be off to presume I'd speak of embracing the spiritual spiel although it helps, whatever floats a persons boat to get a sense of stability in their lives is good enough.

    I've been through 15+ years of moderate to extreme depression and social anxiety, panic and general anxieties so I think I may have insight into whats going on. I've gone through many anti depressants and anxiety meds too, 9+.

    Often times the causation of said issues is rarely addressed.

    There are three components. xD
    Good Nutrition
    Being Social
    And
    Regular Exercise


    Let me elaborate.

    Good nutrition is key above all else. A good step is to reduce processed sugar from your diet which includes alcohol because this weakens your adrenal glands and stresses your body out which causes anxieties. Plus alcohol washes away essential elements, such as zinc, magnesium and selenium which mop up all the toxins in your body unless you buy the supplements. Almost everyone has some depletion happening and a good indicator is getting a hair analysis done. Then its easier to have a metal build up such as mercury, copper, lead etc which certainly cause depression, tiredness and anxiety.

    Its common sense to eat natural foods yet few realise that your body when depleted stresses your endocrine system, in particular adrenal and thyroid glands, the most which has a domino effect if you like. Lots of fruit and veg and unprocessed foods where possible. I'd say fatty foods are fine, its really the processed sugar which isn't and in today's society its overkill.

    This is the same with the fluoride compound, whoever it is that had the idea to put fluoride in tap water or anti depressants had a calculating mind and I'd guess most likely INTJ because fluoride does the same deal, washes away zinc, magnesium and selenium and much worse. How is the immune system going to function then, and its your liver and kidneys that have to then take the excesses. I'd almost recommend a detox though I'm not sold on the idea personally, as the real need is to get your minerals up more so then your body should take care of the rest. Sure there are medical aspects, for instance by end of life I've read 25% of the population have a benign tumor in their pituitary, but have to wonder what caused that in the first place.

    Being social is key too, and not just family or going to work. But a real solid social circle that you connect with that gets you out and about that you trust enough to relax and unwind to be yourself. This could be your significant other or the friends in the job that you love. The key is to have an outlet where your able to feel comfortable in expressing yourself and surrounded by positives rather than negatives that wear you down and stress you out.

    You all know exercise releases the feel good receptors and this is crucial to get a clear mind, even if its a walk every other day for a half hour. I'm one to talk, I'm a little averse to exercise thanks to cfs issues. Though what exercise does is strengthens your immune system, muscle and bone structure naturally by being active.

    I've seen the turn around in me, taken a few years or more and still has reactivity issues but I'm rarely depressed or anxious like I used to be. And sure every person is different, I could link curezone but that's got lots of gibberish as much as anything else. Getting good nutrition supplies in your body is key. And that, aside from eating healthy, socializing and exercising is the way to a healthier outlook on life without relying on meds. If its something that I've learned its that much of anxiety, fatigue, depression is an adrenal and or thyroid gland response to stressors in your life. Well okay that's subjective too, its what works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    None taken, I used to think like you once. You'd be wrong that I'm advocating completely away from meds, they do offer some help and relief often times just a bandage that can exacerbate issues later in life.

    And nope Haight you'd be off to presume I'd speak of embracing the spiritual spiel although it helps, whatever floats a persons boat to get a sense of stability in their lives is good enough.

    I've been through 15+ years of moderate to extreme depression and social anxiety, panic and general anxieties so I think I may have insight into whats going on. I've gone through many anti depressants and anxiety meds too, 9+.

    Often times the causation of said issues is rarely addressed.

    There are three components. xD
    Good Nutrition
    Being Social
    And
    Regular Exercise


    Let me elaborate.

    Good nutrition is key above all else. A good step is to reduce processed sugar from your diet which includes alcohol because this weakens your adrenal glands and stresses your body out which causes anxieties. Plus alcohol washes away essential elements, such as zinc, magnesium and selenium which mop up all the toxins in your body unless you buy the supplements. Almost everyone has some depletion happening and a good indicator is getting a hair analysis done. Then its easier to have a metal build up such as mercury, copper, lead etc which certainly cause depression, tiredness and anxiety.

    Its common sense to eat natural foods yet few realise that your body when depleted stresses your endocrine system, in particular adrenal and thyroid glands, the most which has a domino effect if you like. Lots of fruit and veg and unprocessed foods where possible. I'd say fatty foods are fine, its really the processed sugar which isn't and in today's society its overkill.

    This is the same with the fluoride compound, whoever it is that had the idea to put fluoride in tap water or anti depressants had a calculating mind and I'd guess most likely INTJ because fluoride does the same deal, washes away zinc, magnesium and selenium and much worse. How is the immune system going to function then, and its your liver and kidneys that have to then take the excesses. I'd almost recommend a detox though I'm not sold on the idea personally, as the real need is to get your minerals up more so then your body should take care of the rest. Sure there are medical aspects, for instance by end of life I've read 25% of the population have a benign tumor in their pituitary, but have to wonder what caused that in the first place.

    Being social is key too, and not just family or going to work. But a real solid social circle that you connect with that gets you out and about that you trust enough to relax and unwind to be yourself. This could be your significant other or the friends in the job that you love. The key is to have an outlet where your able to feel comfortable in expressing yourself and surrounded by positives rather than negatives that wear you down and stress you out.

    You all know exercise releases the feel good receptors and this is crucial to get a clear mind, even if its a walk every other day for a half hour. I'm one to talk, I'm a little averse to exercise thanks to cfs issues. Though what exercise does is strengthens your immune system, muscle and bone structure naturally by being active.

    I've seen the turn around in me, taken a few years or more and still has reactivity issues but I'm rarely depressed or anxious like I used to be. And sure every person is different, I could link curezone but that's got lots of gibberish as much as anything else. Getting good nutrition supplies in your body is key. And that, aside from eating healthy, socializing and exercising is the way to a healthier outlook on life without relying on meds. If its something that I've learned its that much of anxiety, fatigue, depression is an adrenal and or thyroid gland response to stressors in your life. Well okay that's subjective too, its what works for me.
    I found the nutrition part interesting:

    Magnesium, The Nutrient That Could Change Your Life: Chapter 19. Suicide and the Magnesium Deficit

    Conditions Linked to Deficiencies of Magnesium

    There might be a connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    None taken, I used to think like you once. You'd be wrong that I'm advocating completely away from meds, they do offer some help and relief often times just a bandage that can exacerbate issues later in life.

    And nope Haight you'd be off to presume I'd speak of embracing the spiritual spiel although it helps, whatever floats a persons boat to get a sense of stability in their lives is good enough.

    I've been through 15+ years of moderate to extreme depression and social anxiety, panic and general anxieties so I think I may have insight into whats going on. I've gone through many anti depressants and anxiety meds too, 9+.

    Often times the causation of said issues is rarely addressed.

    There are three components. xD
    Good Nutrition
    Being Social
    And
    Regular Exercise


    Let me elaborate.

    Good nutrition is key above all else. A good step is to reduce processed sugar from your diet which includes alcohol because this weakens your adrenal glands and stresses your body out which causes anxieties. Plus alcohol washes away essential elements, such as zinc, magnesium and selenium which mop up all the toxins in your body unless you buy the supplements. Almost everyone has some depletion happening and a good indicator is getting a hair analysis done. Then its easier to have a metal build up such as mercury, copper, lead etc which certainly cause depression, tiredness and anxiety.

    Its common sense to eat natural foods yet few realise that your body when depleted stresses your endocrine system, in particular adrenal and thyroid glands, the most which has a domino effect if you like. Lots of fruit and veg and unprocessed foods where possible. I'd say fatty foods are fine, its really the processed sugar which isn't and in today's society its overkill.

    This is the same with the fluoride compound, whoever it is that had the idea to put fluoride in tap water or anti depressants had a calculating mind and I'd guess most likely INTJ because fluoride does the same deal, washes away zinc, magnesium and selenium and much worse. How is the immune system going to function then, and its your liver and kidneys that have to then take the excesses. I'd almost recommend a detox though I'm not sold on the idea personally, as the real need is to get your minerals up more so then your body should take care of the rest. Sure there are medical aspects, for instance by end of life I've read 25% of the population have a benign tumor in their pituitary, but have to wonder what caused that in the first place.

    Being social is key too, and not just family or going to work. But a real solid social circle that you connect with that gets you out and about that you trust enough to relax and unwind to be yourself. This could be your significant other or the friends in the job that you love. The key is to have an outlet where your able to feel comfortable in expressing yourself and surrounded by positives rather than negatives that wear you down and stress you out.

    You all know exercise releases the feel good receptors and this is crucial to get a clear mind, even if its a walk every other day for a half hour. I'm one to talk, I'm a little averse to exercise thanks to cfs issues. Though what exercise does is strengthens your immune system, muscle and bone structure naturally by being active.

    I've seen the turn around in me, taken a few years or more and still has reactivity issues but I'm rarely depressed or anxious like I used to be. And sure every person is different, I could link curezone but that's got lots of gibberish as much as anything else. Getting good nutrition supplies in your body is key. And that, aside from eating healthy, socializing and exercising is the way to a healthier outlook on life without relying on meds. If its something that I've learned its that much of anxiety, fatigue, depression is
    Well, I've been physically active - though not an athlete - for most of my life. I used to be a professional dancer. Now I ride my bike and I walk more than a half an hour a day. I also swim when I can.

    My family lives, not with me, but close to me to serve as a support mechanism. I also do on-line journaling and have connections with old friends that go back 15+ years.

    I try to incorporate a good bit of fruit, veggies, and fiber into my diet. I try not to eat red meat very often. I've taken multi-vitamin and other natural supplements since childhood. I love green vegetables and sea food. No, my diet isn't perfect, but it's better than some Americans.

    I also try to get plenty of sleep. I was in therapy for almost two years.

    That doesn't change the fact that I still have a very real mental illness. It isn't as severe as schizophrenia, but it has caused damage in my life. I've gone without meds for most of my life, and I must say that in the past two years that I've been consistently on them I'm more balanced and successful than I've ever been. I don't know how I would do what I do (go to school full-time, work part-time, and live alone) without being on medication.

    I also don't drink heavily. So...while I definitely, definitely agree that your other advice is valid for everybody - i.e. exercise, nutrition, relationship - the advice to avoid meds is frankly not in some cases.

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    Never tried lex.


    Prozac worked well. It made me loose my boners though........it was depressing......................IRONY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avolkiteshvara View Post
    Never tried lex.


    Prozac worked well. It made me loose my boners though........it was depressing......................IRONY?
    Ugh SSRIs and sexual side effects. I'm glad that Wellbutrin is the over all best choice for me. I can honestly say I'm very happy to not be on SSRIs, but I know that they work well for some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avolkiteshvara View Post
    Never tried lex.


    Prozac worked well. It made me loose my boners though........it was depressing......................IRONY?
    Also, Lexapro is like a "cleaner" more modern version of prozac. It's called Lexapro because it's like a combo of Celexa and Prozac.

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