Now I have a question for you (hopefully I don't appear provincial while doing so):
Do you find that in general male-male physical attraction differs in any way from male-female variants? Obviously yours do not (torso seems to be a major issue); I am just curious about the general differences if they do exist. If you don't have enough personally accumulated data to make a judgment then that's okay. I was just curious.
Well, I only recall my
drive being ever oriented towards men, though I do find the female body very aesthetically pleasing.
This is actually an interesting question, however, and I do have a bit of insight into it.
I came out immediately after I graduated high school, so about 2.5 years ago. My best friend, Jon, is the first guy I ever made out with. He, however, is straight, and has a girlfriend of I think about 1.5 years. Yes, she knows he and I got with eachother.
Last summer, three friends (including Jon) and I tried an experiment in which we took turns looking directly into eachothers' eyes for 5 minutes straight. In Sociology I'd read about a similar experiment between opposite sex couples, so I at least had a clue as to what the outcome would be. Jon and I both reported sexual feelings defined by overtones of mutual respect and admiration.
When Jon's girlfriend came to visit with him last winter break, I watched the two of them looking at eachother in conversation, and thought about how being attracted to men and being attracted to women is just fundamentally different. I can't yet quite put my finger on
how it's different, but Jon certainly agreed.
So the attraction is not so much physical: a body can be attractive and pleasing to the eye whether male or female. But when it comes to the mental and personality aspects, you're dealing with different complementary aspects of personality, different attractions and different repulsions.
Vague? Very.
Think of it this way: historically and archetypically, in heterosexual couples, men fight fiercely on the battlefield so that it never reaches their partner back home. In homosexual couples, men fight fiercely on the battlefield because their partner is already present on the battlefield. Very similar, but structured differently. Make sense?
Overly defined?
I think the bodybuilders from the 60-70's look good.
But since then, the bodybuilders, men and women both, seem to be striving to look like a living map of the human vascular system.
It creeps me out that living human beings want to look like skinless cadavers from a gross anatomy class.
Exactly. Body fat is not a bad thing unless, like all other things, it's overdone or underdone. A guy who has defined muscle mass is attractive, and a bit of padding is as well.
Physique wise I've always liked Frank Zane.
Yeah.
That is what I see as being overly defined. His shoulders and triceps look like implants. And I'm not trying to make out with Dr. Manhattan. Things didn't turn out so well for the last few people that did.