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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I'm tall and skinny (mostly).

    I also refuse to lift for more than an hour a day. So there's that.

    LOL!

    I spend 30-45 minutes tops lifting.

    It's more about what you do with the time, than how long you spend doing it.

    I rest maybe 30 seconds between sets.

    Two body parts per day, heavy weights, between 6-10 reps, 3-4 sets, 3 exercises per body part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Well, I only recall my drive being ever oriented towards men, though I do find the female body very aesthetically pleasing.

    This is actually an interesting question, however, and I do have a bit of insight into it.

    I came out immediately after I graduated high school, so about 2.5 years ago. My best friend, Jon, is the first guy I ever made out with. He, however, is straight, and has a girlfriend of I think about 1.5 years. Yes, she knows he and I got with each other.

    Last summer, three friends (including Jon) and I tried an experiment in which we took turns looking directly into eachothers' eyes for 5 minutes straight. In Sociology I'd read about a similar experiment between opposite sex couples, so I at least had a clue as to what the outcome would be. Jon and I both reported sexual feelings defined by overtones of mutual respect and admiration.

    When Jon's girlfriend came to visit with him last winter break, I watched the two of them looking at eachother in conversation, and thought about how being attracted to men and being attracted to women is just fundamentally different. I can't yet quite put my finger on how it's different, but Jon certainly agreed.

    So the attraction is not so much physical: a body can be attractive and pleasing to the eye whether male or female. But when it comes to the mental and personality aspects, you're dealing with different complementary aspects of personality, different attractions and different repulsions.

    Vague? Very.

    Think of it this way: historically and archetypically, in heterosexual couples, men fight fiercely on the battlefield so that it never reaches their partner back home. In homosexual couples, men fight fiercely on the battlefield because their partner is already present on the battlefield. Very similar, but structured differently. Make sense?
    Thanks for your insight. So, per your opinion what you are saying is that physical attraction is fundamentally the same between heterosexual and homosexual mentalities. The less palpable constituents of attraction is somewhat disparate. Is this right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangirl View Post
    I have been accused, by gay male friends, of being a gay man in a woman's body. The men I go for are more similiar to what *they* like than what female friends like. I like muscular, beefy dudes*. Although the guy in the photo above is, to my eye, not aesthetically pleasing - way too big in the upper arm/chest/shoulder area in comparison to the rest of him. Do not want.

    *I'll always go for a guy with a little meat on him over the one with 2% body fat and veins popping out all over.
    I kind of agree. While I am striving for an optimal physical condition, I seem to not want to aggressively encroach on my fat deposits. To me, a healthy amount of fat is aesthetically pleasing; this applies to males and females in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    What do you mean I am out of your reach? Are you an ectomorph, less than six feet tall? I am as big as I am because I never stopped, and never did anything stupid where I hurt myself.

    Some people I know make me look small. I'm not tall(5'10") but I am wide(275lbs).
    Ectomorph?

    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I'm tall and skinny (mostly).

    I also refuse to lift for more than an hour a day. So there's that.
    I think I agree with Biaxident in saying that thirty to forty minutes is ample, so long as you maintain quality in your workouts. Although I am still a workout fledgling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WithoutaFace View Post


    Ectomorph?
    I think Wolfy already addressed this somewhere, but I'll put it out again.

    Somatypes:

    * Ectomorphic: characterized by long and thin muscles/limbs and low fat storage; usually referred to as slim.

    * Mesomorphic: characterized by large bones, solid torso, low fat levels, wide shoulders with a narrow waist.

    * Endomorphic: characterized by increased fat storage, a wide waist and a large bone structure.



    Quote Originally Posted by WithoutaFace View Post
    I think I agree with Biaxident in saying that thirty to forty minutes is ample, so long as you maintain quality in your workouts. Although I am still a workout fledgling.
    You have to remember, most people consider going to a gym as a social occasion with possible health benefits. Rather than a place to make yourself healthier, where you might meet someone with similar interests after your workout. :rolli:

    This is why I like old style, dark, dingy, gyms. That smell vaguely of iron, grease, liniment, chalk, and mildew.

    Where the only words exchanged are pretty much limited to asking if you are done with the equipment, do you need a spot, or good job.

    You go in, do what you came for, and leave. No muss, no fuss.

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    I hate being an ectomorph so much. Impossible to gain size without the perfect diet. I was throwing back 5-6k calories a day at one point just to keep building. Chicken, whey, yogurt, cheese, tuna, milk, but when I work out high intensity forget it.

    Now I just try to maintain a fit image, though I've just started up again after not exercising for about 6 months. I'm a bit uhh..."soft" I guess you could say.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I hate being an ectomorph so much. Impossible to gain size without the perfect diet. I was throwing back 5-6k calories a day at one point just to keep building. Chicken, whey, yogurt, cheese, tuna, milk, but when I work out high intensity forget it.

    Now I just try to maintain a fit image, though I've just started up again after not exercising for about 6 months. I'm a bit uhh..."soft" I guess you could say.
    Most people are a combination of somatypes, I bet there is at least one body part you are proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Most people are a combination of somatypes, I bet there is at least one body part you are proud of.
    I'm actually going for better balance. Sad when you nearly lift the whole machine on leg extensions and calf-raises, but you can barely bench press 150 pounds



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I'm actually going for better balance. Sad when you nearly lift the whole machine on leg extensions and calf-raises, but you can barely bench press 150 pounds
    So substitute a Triceps and Pectorals workout, for a leg workout for 4 weeks. Then go back to normal. I am assuming you are lifting 3-4 days a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    So substitute a Triceps and Pectorals workout, for a leg workout for 4 weeks. Then go back to normal. I am assuming you are lifting 3-4 days a week.
    Yeah. I really need to work my shoulders, that's my weak point. Shoulders, pecs, back is where I need to focus. Shoulders especially, whenever I'm benching, my shoulders simply can't control the weights I'm trying to put up, but it's not really a muscle pain...almost a "pinch" inside the shoulder which is becoming a cause for concern.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Yeah. I really need to work my shoulders, that's my weak point. Shoulders, pecs, back is where I need to focus. Shoulders especially, whenever I'm benching, my shoulders simply can't control the weights I'm trying to put up, but it's not really a muscle pain...almost a "pinch" inside the shoulder which is becoming a cause for concern.
    Sounds like a weak rotator cuff/accessory muscle problem. What sort of shoulder exercises do you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Sounds like a weak rotator cuff/accessory muscle problem. What sort of shoulder exercises do you do?
    Military press [I can only do the bar ], I throw in some shrugs, dumbell presses, and whatever the one is where it looks like I'm flapping my arms with dumbells. I had always assumed it was a rotator cuff issue, however if it came to surgery I wasn't going to do it anyways, so why bother getting the diagnosis.



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