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    Quote Originally Posted by laintpe View Post
    Thanks. I also agree that passing out is a sign of a major problem- which is why I ended that fast prematurely and am now looking into less restrictive methods of cleansing... what you call "intermittent fasting", i'm assuming.
    What I'm talking about is essentially eating healthy, but eating as much as you want only at certain times. Every day, though.
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    Look, I can quote pseudo-reliable sources too: Health benefits of detox diets not proven

    I'll think about believing it despite common sense when someone does a scientific study showing it has a better effect than a regular healthy diet.

    Of course, not eating food that's bad for you will be beneficial, whether it's for a few days or longer...
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    What I'm talking about is essentially eating healthy, but eating as much as you want only at certain times. Every day, though.
    I do have reason to believe that even though I am mostly raw and vegan that small amounts of cleansing (something like 4 times a year- what the article I posted above suggests) are beneficial. I am negatively effected by most foods... some sources have claimed that cleansing can help with mild food intolerance... and really, i would cleanse if that was the only benefit. i feel sick after i eat almost daily... and i've been like this for years (before i was vegan, too, but it did subside a little when i went vegan... and a little more when i was almost entirely raw).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Look, I can quote pseudo-reliable sources too: Health benefits of detox diets not proven

    I'll think about believing it despite common sense when someone does a scientific study showing it has a better effect than a regular healthy diet.

    Of course, not eating food that's bad for you will be beneficial, whether it's for a few days or longer...
    a more reliable source, page 107

    The Detox Diet: A How-To & When-To ... - Google Book Search

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    Umm...I don't think someone who makes a living from selling people that stuff is a reliable source. Nice try though. (an example of a reliable source would be a scientific study by unbiased observers, published in a peer-reviewed journal)

    Anyway I'm not trying to start anything, just pointing out that there isn't any actual (ie, proven) evidence for this stuff. As long as it's not harming anyone it's no worse than astrology - maybe even better, since it encourages conscientiousness about your diet.
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by laintpe View Post
    "What is cleansing? It is a process of eliminating toxins, internal toxins, from the body. Every day our bodies are presented with environmental toxins, including pollution, airborne viruses and substances from the foods we eat. Normally our livers help us process these pollutants, but it is impossible over time for our bodies to completely eradicate all of the poisons we are subject to.

    Consider for example your home furnace. It has a filter you place in it. In the beginning the filter works fine. Over time however you must clean or replace the filter or it does not work as efficiently. Our bodies work the same way. Since we cannot replace our bodies we must periodically cleanse them. When we do not, we become sick, we fall prey to immune system illnesses or digestive illnesses. We catch colds more easily or have difficulty getting over them.
    Uhm... No.

    Living organisms "regenerate" damaged body parts depending on the damage level they suffer.

    In actuality, I'd say that "fasting or cleansing" would limit the ehaling capabilities because you do not give your body the energy required to produce cells.

    Other than that, given a prolonged time of not ingesting any food and your body starts to seriously cannibalize itself. The first thing to go is muscle, because it's a high-energy requirement organ, thus it's dumped to save more energy because your body starts to think that a famine is going on.

    Metabolism starts to go down to a crawl which indeed destroys your immune system, not strengthens it. Cellular division is slowed down because of the lack of nutrients which makes one incredibly suspectable to damage.




    Sorry, but I doubt that the people living in poverty driven areas in Africa feel very healthy due to their "clean" bodies.

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    The neat thing about the human body is that we come equipped with our own sewer crew.

    We are automatically a handy-dandy self-cleaning machine if we live a healthy lifestyle.

    No need to tinker with what works.
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    The purpose of cleansing/fasting I'm referring to IS NOT weight loss... and yes, there are benefits to cleansing.

    "What is cleansing? It is a process of.......................................
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    I know its purpose isn't weight loss. I stated what I did, although maybe irrelevant to the topic at hand, because they're a few of many reasons I would not fast. In addition, I don't have issues or sensitivities to food, I eat a very balanced diet (and my digestive system is awesome, haha), am quite content with my activity level, and consider myself healthy.

    It's perfectly fine if you and others see a reason and benefit from doing so, but no need to provide all the 'facts' to 'sell' it to everyone who chooses not to do it.

    You asked the question, I responded. I don't need/want to cleanse. And Randomnity speaks for my other thoughts on this subject.
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    Drink some magnesium citrate. Cleanse complete.
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    I'm not much for healthy food, I'm a gourmet. According to some.
    However I do "fast" for non-religious purposes a few times a year. When I do, I only eat fish, salad and vegetables, soup, dark bread, I only drink water etc. I do this like a week or more in a row. Sometimes up to three weeks, if deemed necessary.

    I don't know, but it really feels as if my body is cleaner afterwards. Since I don't stop eating, the metabolism isn't set into starvation, but since I don't eat very little carbohydrates and fat, I generally lose a few pounds.

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