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IQ and patience.

Terian

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So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?
 

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:rolli: I'm glad you're so ashamed of your "problem" that you've completely rationalized it.
 

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So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?

1 point more than yours. That's high enough for me to lose patience with this thread.
 

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So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?

first off - iq does not make you a smart person
it measures the capacity for a specific intelligence
but true genius is inscrutable - at least baffling in its undefined and yet indelible prescence

but to skin a cat, i have the same problem - its not their problem
and my iq is in the 140 to 150 range , although this random guy said 174
wtf ?
but yeah
 

Terian

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first off - iq does not make you a smart person
it measures the capacity for a specific intelligence
but true genius is inscrutable - at least baffling in its undefined and yet indelible prescence

but to skin a cat, i have the same problem - its not their problem
and my iq is in the 140 to 150 range , although this random guy said 174
wtf ?
but yeah
True, IQ does not equate with actual intelligence. However, it's an excellent indicator. It does equate with a higher capacity for understanding (italicized to reflect the concept of "understanding", rather than the definition).
I never mentioned true genius. However, I disagree with you that it is inscrutable. Everything is reducible. All that is required to scrutinize genius are boundaries for its application.
 

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I never mentioned true genius.
Good observation
Terian said:
However, I disagree with you that it is inscrutable. Everything is reducible. All that is required to scrutinize genius are boundaries for its application.
I concede to this and how i.q. is a fair indicator
but do you really think that it can be reduced to numbers ?
I would think so - everything is a number, everything is everything - blah blah blah

but my cynicism is based on the inadequacy of the tests
the inconsistent fluctuations of range qualifications and history questions on i.q. tests ? eww
 

Terian

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I concede to this and how i.q. is a fair indicator
but do you really think that it can be reduced to numbers ?
I would think so - everything is a number, everything is everything - blah blah blah

but my cynicism is based on the inadequacy of the tests
the inconsistent fluctuations of range qualifications and history questions on i.q. tests ? eww
I did not say that genius could be reduced to a single number. Since there are many types of genius, there would have to be subcategories and classifications, but yes, in the end (if you took it that far) you could reduce someone's measure of genius to the point of comparative significance (say, 14a5b=Mozart's musical genius).

I'm not saying that current IQ tests are the perfect formula, and I agree with you that a lot of the questions are dependent upon circumstantial upbringing factors (has Kid A ever even heard Word B?), hence imperfect. However, debating the validity of Intelligence Quotients is straying from the topic.
 

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So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?

My IQ has tested in the 145-150 range. I don't really have a problem with needing to 'dumb down' my speech for anyone, nor do I feel the need to talk down to individuals whom I deem are less intelligent than I. Guess it's a problem particular to you.
 

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So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?

I don't have much of a problem with people with average IQ - they can still have plenty more interesting life experiences than myself. I do have a problem with people who are rude and arrogant: it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

My IQ was measured at 156 by MENSA a few years ago (I had a very low self esteem and wanted to know if my perceived academic failure up to that point was down to stupidity). I thought I'd join the society for something to do (I have a limited social life). I went out for a few meals and met some nice people. However, I had to consider what the point of the society was, other than to say 'I'm in MENSA', so I decided to leave. May be if all the smart people banded together to make the world a better place it would be worthwhile, but it just seems to be more for socialising.
 

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Intelligence is often described as quickness; a rapid extrapolation of base ideas into cohesive intellectual towers of knowledge.

With this quickness, its likely one will eventually uncover anxiety - an urgency to move these so-called towers into an exact sequence, if to build even more magnificent structures. More towers mean more knowledge. Higher intelligence is the expression of this arrangement.

Yet, this impatience can create oversight. Oversight can fold into stress. Stress into mistakes. The desire to move can often lead an impatient mind to stumble...

Wisdom helps to correct this. It disavows us from the desire to uplift ourselves into our intellectual monuments. It protects us from ourselves, as existence aloft is often a very lonely place. Makes some reconsider their intellect.

Experience is this realization.

Helping others find their intellectual identities, the manifestation.
 

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So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?

Giftedness starts at about 130. However IQ is not a measure of giftedness. Giftedness is global and encompasses the whole person, particularly their emotions.

However for those who are gifted, it is important for their emotional and social growth to mix with other gifted people.

So it is well worthwhile to join a gifted group.
 

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this seems to be an attribute (WARNING: EXTREME GENERALIZATION) of NPs in general. my best friend (ENTP) has literally no patience whatsoever.
 
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I have more patience with other people (who don't have the benefit of my personal context) than I do myself. That's because I take the time to explain things, qualities, notable bits of information that might be relevant to understanding.

Intelligence has nothing to do with quickness of understanding. Relatable context does. Your judgment of people being "less smart" (in the context of misunderstanding you) because of an IQ test result is just your ego speaking.

edited to add: For the record, my IQ is higher than yours, but it means absolutely nothing, beyond the fact that it convinced me when I was 14/15 that what my teachers were telling me about my apparent stupidity was wrong.
 

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I'm very impatient when I know that somebody can do something about the thing at hand right this second, but choose not to for some stupid reason. However, if that's not possible, I'm pretty chill -- I can also be pretty patient with explaining things if I'm not on a time limit/have better things to do myself.

It's unbelievable how antsy I get, though.
 

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Bunch of shit. Everyone thinks they're above average IQ.

Patience wasn't very specifically defined. For example, in traffic, I find myself very impatient. But when I'm waiting for something in the mail, I don't have a choice so I'm patient.
 

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I have an IQ of 800, and right now 10 women with an IQ of 801 (so, more intelligent, so, I'm not threatened by them) are giving me a blowjob.
 

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Giftedness starts at about 130. However IQ is not a measure of giftedness. Giftedness is global and encompasses the whole person, particularly their emotions.

However for those who are gifted, it is important for their emotional and social growth to mix with other gifted people.

So it is well worthwhile to join a gifted group.

You are quite right that a person's emotions plays a vital role in their ability to apply their giftedness. The highest grades (or general attainment in life) are achieved mostly by hard work rather than by being naturally gifted. Being smart is not enough in itself.
 
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