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    i consider learning different ways to interpret your perceptions and controlling your psyche a daily challenge

    i think what you want is these people to stimulate you, which isnt necessarily their responsibility. you should probably find your own entertainment in what they say and do.

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    Here's a cool question:
    Are determination and impatience compatible? That is, will you find both traits in the same person?


    How's that for cooperation Terian?
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    There is a difference in knowledge and intelligence.

    Intelligence denotes the ability to learn and contemplate situations to come up with your own ideas.

    Whilst knowledge is merely the ability to remember information.

    Someone can appear to be inteligent, when they are merely reciting information.

    As is common, I have found in this thread.

    Also dissonance, I share you situation with regard to classroom settings. Just the other day me and my friend discussed the topic during the first 15 mins of the lecture, and bounced ideas off each other. And at the end of the class the prof finally made it too that after prompting from me that he had missed a basic principle.

    School is merely a piece of paper to let employers know how much you know. I find it to be a waste o time, but it is a neccessary waste of time.
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    That's sort of like saying I have so much potential that It would be detrimental to realize it. I guess it creates sort of a continual loop of striving for something unreachable, so in that sense it could be a factor in high intelligence. Rage to learn, insatiable curiosity...etc
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    i consider learning different ways to interpret your perceptions and controlling your psyche a daily challenge

    i think what you want is these people to stimulate you, which isnt necessarily their responsibility. you should probably find your own entertainment in what they say and do.
    It may be a challenge, but it is solved independently of intelligence.

    Remember that you're talking to an ENTP here.
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    The school thing also resonates with me and I think it was at the root of Terians question in the OP. In conversation it is definitely refreshing and liberating when you are talking to someone who is obviously very smart, for me personally it seems like ideas and connections just seem to build up without pause or need for constant clarification and definition.

    The knowledge v Intelligence is also a key distinction. That is one thing I absolutely hate and is actually one of my determining factors in assesing someones "intelligence", basically more of a fluid v crystalized interpretation of the issue. It is probably one of the most noticeable things in a conversation, basically how particular and tailored your comments and explanations have to be to that individual for them to understand.
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terian View Post
    So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141),

    At least you perform well on a standardized test developed seemingly for people living in a western society and assuming those values...

    ...and very impatient to boot.

    I have found over the course of years that experiencing a personal cost at the indulgence of my own impatience will tend to provide me with more patience. Opportunities to practice this have always seemed to be in abundant supply for myself, and you too it seems. Good Luck.

    I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me.

    When I experience difficulty communicating with another person I'll try additional methods adding gesticulation, drawing or best of all I have found, listening to them to discover what they need and how sharing information may serve both of us.

    This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

    Although I have a rather modest IQ score for this forum, I am almost certain that you are describing intolerance? Tolerance of others is something I've grown to accept as not only being a decent human, but additionally, beneficial! Often people I find seemingly a few coals short of a good BBQ, are savants in some esoteric area like computer repair, facilities management, politics, dishwashing etc., and they prove to be useful and productive members of society. Although I can claim no competence in any of these areas, they seem able to tolerate me despite this.

    So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?
    Yes being human I share these problems. But having a somewhat lower IQ score perhaps I am able to exert more patience...perhaps this is an evolutionary tool developed over the eons to help the less gifted survive? Thanks for taking the time to read this reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    Yeah. It sucks.




    Luckily, I don't tend to have that problem here, as I take classes from some of the top names in my field in the world.

    But the teachers also look bored, like they're annoyed they have to teach some stupid shit to mostly idiots. They just want to get to their research or grad student seminar. Some of them get pretty excited when I talk to them after class. It's honestly the only thing that keeps me going...
    what are you studying? I too sense that most of the profs are pissed they have teach at all....

    ...sometimes i get a good question, "hmm ill go ask him at office hours n get brownie points ", but then i just find the answer myself and never bother going. If the class is really boring and not in my major (some random general ed requirenment class) then ill be "that guy" who has questions. If its a class I need to do well in and its not necessarily easy, then I just have to focus on the material and not be "that guy" who has a question/argument for everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed111 View Post
    Everyone thinks their child is a genius - how annoying.
    yeah....my dad was the random guy who thought i have a 174 iq
    argh
    damn ENTPs
    and he brags to his friends about his " genius son "
    argh
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    oh yes, i never addressed the patience issue.
    i have a lot of patience.....even when i am impatient
    its hardest with stupid people - high I.Q.s and all
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