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    Quote Originally Posted by Terian View Post
    So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

    So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?
    I don't have much of a problem with people with average IQ - they can still have plenty more interesting life experiences than myself. I do have a problem with people who are rude and arrogant: it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

    My IQ was measured at 156 by MENSA a few years ago (I had a very low self esteem and wanted to know if my perceived academic failure up to that point was down to stupidity). I thought I'd join the society for something to do (I have a limited social life). I went out for a few meals and met some nice people. However, I had to consider what the point of the society was, other than to say 'I'm in MENSA', so I decided to leave. May be if all the smart people banded together to make the world a better place it would be worthwhile, but it just seems to be more for socialising.

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    Intelligence is often described as quickness; a rapid extrapolation of base ideas into cohesive intellectual towers of knowledge.

    With this quickness, its likely one will eventually uncover anxiety - an urgency to move these so-called towers into an exact sequence, if to build even more magnificent structures. More towers mean more knowledge. Higher intelligence is the expression of this arrangement.

    Yet, this impatience can create oversight. Oversight can fold into stress. Stress into mistakes. The desire to move can often lead an impatient mind to stumble...

    Wisdom helps to correct this. It disavows us from the desire to uplift ourselves into our intellectual monuments. It protects us from ourselves, as existence aloft is often a very lonely place. Makes some reconsider their intellect.

    Experience is this realization.

    Helping others find their intellectual identities, the manifestation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terian View Post
    So, I'm a smart person (I've tested everywhere from 130-141), and very impatient to boot. I find myself speaking down to most people, and when I don't dumb down my speech, they often misunderstand me. This leads to me being rather bigoted against people of average intelligence or below (they become boring too quickly and I just want to move on).

    So, I was wondering, how many of you have this same problem? What's your IQ?
    Giftedness starts at about 130. However IQ is not a measure of giftedness. Giftedness is global and encompasses the whole person, particularly their emotions.

    However for those who are gifted, it is important for their emotional and social growth to mix with other gifted people.

    So it is well worthwhile to join a gifted group.

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    this seems to be an attribute (WARNING: EXTREME GENERALIZATION) of NPs in general. my best friend (ENTP) has literally no patience whatsoever.
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

    "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

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    I have more patience with other people (who don't have the benefit of my personal context) than I do myself. That's because I take the time to explain things, qualities, notable bits of information that might be relevant to understanding.

    Intelligence has nothing to do with quickness of understanding. Relatable context does. Your judgment of people being "less smart" (in the context of misunderstanding you) because of an IQ test result is just your ego speaking.

    edited to add: For the record, my IQ is higher than yours, but it means absolutely nothing, beyond the fact that it convinced me when I was 14/15 that what my teachers were telling me about my apparent stupidity was wrong.

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    I'm very impatient when I know that somebody can do something about the thing at hand right this second, but choose not to for some stupid reason. However, if that's not possible, I'm pretty chill -- I can also be pretty patient with explaining things if I'm not on a time limit/have better things to do myself.

    It's unbelievable how antsy I get, though.
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge

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    Bunch of shit. Everyone thinks they're above average IQ.

    Patience wasn't very specifically defined. For example, in traffic, I find myself very impatient. But when I'm waiting for something in the mail, I don't have a choice so I'm patient.
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    I have an IQ of 800, and right now 10 women with an IQ of 801 (so, more intelligent, so, I'm not threatened by them) are giving me a blowjob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Everyone thinks they're above average IQ.
    At Lake Wobegon, all the children are above average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Giftedness starts at about 130. However IQ is not a measure of giftedness. Giftedness is global and encompasses the whole person, particularly their emotions.

    However for those who are gifted, it is important for their emotional and social growth to mix with other gifted people.

    So it is well worthwhile to join a gifted group.
    You are quite right that a person's emotions plays a vital role in their ability to apply their giftedness. The highest grades (or general attainment in life) are achieved mostly by hard work rather than by being naturally gifted. Being smart is not enough in itself.

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