Bullying

[Beorn]

 

[Coriolis]

Terrible things were said about me by YUU to humiliate me and stop me from talking and thinking about Fantasy and Reality. This emotional assault on me continues and continues and the moderators have no wish or ability to stop group bullying.

It is passing odd that on a site devoted to the individual, social control is maintained by group bullying.

All I can say is to repeat the usual reminder that modbox discussion of reports is not made public, nor are penalties short of banning or otherwise restricting forum access (e.g. the recently exhumed graveyard confinement). Please do not make assumptions.

 

[Lark]

Terrible things were said about me by YUU to humiliate me and stop me from talking and thinking about Fantasy and Reality. This emotional assault on me continues and continues and the moderators have no wish or ability to stop group bullying.

It is passing odd that on a site devoted to the individual, social control is maintained by group bullying.

Mole you decided for a bit that if I asked you questions it was bullying, that if I posted in their threads it was bullying.

It worries me a little that interaction with you per se seems to be perceived by you AS bullying.

If it really does involve the distress you're making out, and far be it from me to suggest its contrived with what little I know, then I'd encourage you to take a break from the forum for a bit. If its causing as much stress as you make out, and nothing short of popular approval, agreement and assent to your views is going to be satisfactory, its only going to go on causing you that stress because that's an irrational wish.

Maybe on a site where typology, the source of your vexation, were a footnote but sure not were it is the site's raison detre.

 

[Mole]

Mole you decided for a bit that if I asked you questions it was bullying, that if I posted in their threads it was bullying. It worries me a little that interaction with you per se seems to be perceived by you AS bullying. If it really does involve the distress you're making out, and far be it from me to suggest its contrived with what little I know, then I'd encourage you to take a break from the forum for a bit. If its causing as much stress as you make out, and nothing short of popular approval, agreement and assent to your views is going to be satisfactory, its only going to go on causing you that stress because that's an irrational wish. Maybe on a site where typology, the source of your vexation, were a footnote but sure not were it is the site's raison detre.

Your first two paragraphs above are untrue and a vicious and poisonous confection in order to stop me from speaking here.

 

[1487610420]

Ypur first two paragraphs above are untrue and a vicious and poisonous confection in order to stop me from speaking here.

can confirm, lark is my sock puppet

 

[Lark]

Your first two paragraphs above are untrue and a vicious and poisonous confection in order to stop me from speaking here.

I anticipated a response like this.

Carry on.

 

[Lark]

can confirm, lark is my sock puppet

You know he's maybe going to believe that?

I've been reading Mole's posts for long enough to suspect he's actually beginning to convince himself at least of what he's constantly complaining about, its easy to forget that behind most of these distressed types are actual people and, you know, they are actually distressed.

Mole's chosen campaign is even more isolated and isolating than the squad fighting the bit out for their far right paranoia and hated of liberals too, because Mole's campaigning against typology per se and not just a what's pretty much a marginal sub forum of the forum itself.

 

[Yuurei]

Mole you decided for a bit that if I asked you questions it was bullying, that if I posted in their threads it was bullying.

It worries me a little that interaction with you per se seems to be perceived by you AS bullying.

If it really does involve the distress you're making out, and far be it from me to suggest its contrived with what little I know, then I'd encourage you to take a break from the forum for a bit. If its causing as much stress as you make out, and nothing short of popular approval, agreement and assent to your views is going to be satisfactory, its only going to go on causing you that stress because that's an irrational wish.

Maybe on a site where typology, the source of your vexation, were a footnote but sure not were it is the site's raison detre.

This is why I don't feel bad about what I said. I in fact, do agree with many of his views. It's the attitude which I can't abide

The blatant and oh so juvenile idea that no one could possibly understand because his thinking is just sooo much more advanced than everyone else's.
Even if you do express agreement the response is being told that you do not think what you claim to because there is no possible way you could be anywhere near his level.

To be completely honest, I used to be like that; I got over it by about 20. Many of these ideas of Mole's which I do agree with are not grand or revolutionary but the logical conclusions of anyone one who observes from the outside; the upside to being ostracized for the greater part of one's life. That's all; no "Higher thinking" nor spiritual transcendence. People like Mole (Because there are many) will have a much easier getting along as soon as they realize this.

 

[Mole]

This is why I don't feel bad about what I said. I in fact, do agree with many of his views. It's the attitude which I can't abide

The blatant and oh so juvenile idea that no one possibly could understand because his thinking on just sooo much more advanced than everyone else's there is no way we possibly could understand such rare and unique depth. Even if you do express agreement the response is being told that you do not think what you claim to because there is no possible way you could be anywhere near his level.

To be completely honest, I used to be like that; I got over it by about 20. Many of these ideas of Mole's which I do agree with are not grand or revolutionary but the logical conclusions of anyone one who observations of one who views from the outside; the upside to being ostracized for the greater part of one's life. That's all; no "Higher thinking" nor spiritual transcendence. People like Mole (Because there are many) will have a much easier getting along as soon as they realize this.

I am already highly individuated so it is unlikely I will conform. By the same token I fully accept your feelings about me. But it is too late for me to go along to get along.

 

[Lark]

This is why I don't feel bad about what I said. I in fact, do agree with many of his views. It's the attitude which I can't abide

The blatant and oh so juvenile idea that no one could possibly understand because his thinking is just sooo much more advanced than everyone else's.
Even if you do express agreement the response is being told that you do not think what you claim to because there is no possible way you could be anywhere near his level.

To be completely honest, I used to be like that; I got over it by about 20. Many of these ideas of Mole's which I do agree with are not grand or revolutionary but the logical conclusions of anyone one who observes from the outside; the upside to being ostracized for the greater part of one's life. That's all; no "Higher thinking" nor spiritual transcendence. People like Mole (Because there are many) will have a much easier getting along as soon as they realize this.

Online NPD?

Everyone's an adolescent online.

 

[Lark]

I am already highly individuated so it is unlikely I will conform. By the same token I fully accept your feelings about me. But it is too late for me to go along to get along.

You could be more than the books you've read though.

Anyway, like I said, carry on, its well established by now.

 

[Mole]

People like Mole (Because there are many) will have a much easier getting along as soon as they realize this.

The 'Good' German goes along to get along.

 

[Yuurei]

I am already highly individuated so it is unlikely I will conform. By the same token I fully accept your feelings about me. But it is too late for me to go along to get along.

It’ has nothing to do with you being indivuated. It has to do with you refusing to associate with anyone whom you may otherwise get along with because doing so would mean that you may not be as special as you think you are. It might imply that people can in fact relate/understand you and accepting that would shatter your own self image; like so many teenagers before you.
And hey, we’ve all got our things but you could at least own it.

Online NPD?

Everyone's an adolescent online.

Heh, it’s the internet. We are all but cogs in the like/veiw/subscribe machine...except mods. They have the ban hammer.

Hm. I’ve always assumed about 15-22.

 

[Lark]

Heh, it’s the internet. We are all but cogs in the like/veiw/subscribe machine...except mods. They have the ban hammer.

Hm. I’ve always assumed about 15-22.

Well then maybe society is maturing later and later, the US age restrictions for drinking alcohol are beginning to make sense.

 

[Lark]

The 'Good' German goes along to get along.

Pretty insulting slur on an entire nationality, dont you think Mole?

I'm sure you can engage people in conversation without all this, wouldnt you say?

 

[Mole]

It' has nothing to do with you being indivuated. It has to do with you refusing to associate with anyone whom you may otherwise get along with because doing so would mean that you may not be as special as you think you are. It might imply that people can in fact relate/understand you and accepting that would shatter your own self image; like so many teenagers before you. And hey, we've all got our things but you could at least own it. Heh, it's the internet. We are all but cogs in the like/veiw/subscribe machine...except mods. They have the ban hammer. Hm. I've always assumed about 15-22.

Doctor Asberger believed in going along to get along, and he murdered many hundreds of German children to go along with national socialism.

So do you believe in going along to get along? And do you believe Mole should go along to get along?

 

[Lark]

That too but if you notice the post he's responding to, Coriolis is taking aim at his behaviour where he's not only proving their point but also giving the mods more reason to take issue with his behaviour.

I stand by what I've said already, in the one sense, the ideological one, they think they're campaigning and fighting their "great satans", ie liberals, and outsmarting them by employing their tactics, ie a wiki level knowledge of Saul D Alinsky and the like, or in another sense, its all gamesmanship, gaming people and systems, scoring points.

Both are pretty adolescent things to do, avoid any real contact with anyone, though its all some people aim at, the internet's a very accomodating place for it too.

 

[Yuurei]

I'm just curious, if at this point in time, there are any members of the forum who do not know this to be Victor/Mole's established routine.

Over the years I think its gotten a little worse/more concentrated or refined. He's not the only one but he's maybe a good example of one of the posters who I think that other guy was talking about in his post about some types being ill when they get here and others becoming ill over time spent here.

That's certainly possible. I know it happens. I haven't been here long enough to say.

I also know quite a few people who have to justify their lives my screaming at everyone that they are just so much more advanced than everyone else.

I stand by what I've said already, in the one sense, the ideological one, they think they're campaigning and fighting their "great satans", ie liberals, and outsmarting them by employing their tactics, ie a wiki level knowledge of Saul D Alinsky and the like, or in another sense, its all gamesmanship, gaming people and systems, scoring points.

Both are pretty adolescent things to do, avoid any real contact with anyone, though its all some people aim at, the internet's a very accomodating place for it too.

I constantly ask myself " Why?" What is the benefit of "Gaming" a supposed being behind a glowing box who;s opinions has zero effect only our own life? It just. Doesn't. Matter. Not in the grand or even lesser scheme of things.

 

[Metis]

Doctor Asberger believed in going along to get along, and he murdered many hundreds of German children to go along with national socialism.

So do you believe in going along to get along? And do you believe Mole should go along to get along?

I didn't know that. Looked it up after I read your post.

Hans Asperger Aided Nazi Child Euthanasia, Study Says
By CEYLAN YEGINSU, APRIL 19, 2018
Hans Asperger Aided Nazi Child Euthanasia, Study Says - The New York Times

Excerpt:​

In 1944, he used the term “autistic psychopathy” to describe the disability. The name Asperger syndrome was introduced by the British psychiatrist Lorna Wing in 1981.

Mr. Czech traced Dr. Asperger’s involvement in the selection of victims for the Nazis’ child-euthanasia program to his role in 1942 on a commission that screened youngsters with mental disabilities.

The commission selected 35 children and categorized them as being “uneducable,” which resulted in their being killed at Am Spiegelgrund.​

 

[Mole]

I didn't know that. Looked it up after I read your post.

Hans Asperger Aided Nazi Child Euthanasia, Study Says By CEYLAN YEGINSU, APRIL 19, 2018 Hans Asperger Aided Nazi Child Euthanasia, Study Says - The New York Times

Excerpt:​

In 1944, he used the term "autistic psychopathy" to describe the disability. The name Asperger syndrome was introduced by the British psychiatrist Lorna Wing in 1981. Mr. Czech traced Dr. Asperger's involvement in the selection of victims for the Nazis' child-euthanasia program to his role in 1942 on a commission that screened youngsters with mental disabilities. The commission selected 35 children and categorized them as being "uneducable," which resulted in their being killed at Am Spiegelgrund.​

Both Doctor Asperger and Doctor Jung were bullies who served the Third Reich.

And both of them hid their involvement and reinvented tthemselves after the war. Asberger as a pediatrician, and Jung as a soul doctor.