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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Bullying is in large part why I act, look, and behave the way I do.
    This is very interesting, not least because of your level of insight.

    And I guess if you are insightful about your image, you will be insightful about other things.

    This is a delightful ability to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blanclait View Post
    Well you can always act like The Count of Monte Cristo, and plot out your vengeance 8 years after it happens. That way, by this time they probably have a family and a loved one. If not wait longer. And 7 year gap allows one to be less likely to be suspected in w/e crime.
    I love the count!

    And very insightful posts from Victor.
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    Hmm, I didn't get bullied much in HS. When I did it was usually for sticking up for somebody who was.

    When I am bullied here, I am invariably told, "It's just a joke".

    This is the way bullies hide their bullying. They hide it behind a joke.

    And this is a very good technique as many here hide their immaturity behind a jokey mask - it almost seems reflexive.
    Guilty. When I was in a bad mood I'd prey on friends I knew were emotionally weak with cruel jokes & outright dickery. Not so much anymore, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Bullying is in large part why I act, look, and behave the way I do.
    You're INFP? And your avatar is you?

    Bitch best be trollin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Called them out on anything I could, often harassed them when I saw them try to pick at someone else. If you consider tattle tailing on them every chance I could then yes. I got so many people in school suspention because of that. I really just had a zero tolerance rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    This is very interesting, not least because of your level of insight.

    And I guess if you are insightful about your image, you will be insightful about other things.

    This is a delightful ability to have.
    I've been known to go out of my way to defend someone I perceive as being bullied.

    I still remember being the short and fat kid, with bad skin. Who just wanted to be left alone.

    Who wasn't particularly good at anything. Except being a target for kids with more hormones than brains. In consequence, I became very good at reading body language and intent.

    I don't find "kids will be kids" to be an adequate excuse for the way some children treat those who are different. It sounds like a cop-out by parents who are too lazy, too stupid, or just plain don't care, about raising well balanced, intelligent, children.

    Two years ago, was my class's twentieth high school reunion. It made me grin and laugh to see how life had beaten the majority into fat, dumpy, automatons with a blank look in their eye. And I know that some of the worst of the bullies from back then have had a truly horrendous life since. Deep in my mind there is a little, fat, misunderstood kid, who feels that they deserve it.

    These days, I have little tolerance for bullying, and generally, the ability to physically or verbally beat them into submission. And I find it viscerally satisfying to out-think some twit who thinks he is better than everyone around him.

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    Bitch best be trollin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Called them out on anything I could, often harassed them when I saw them try to pick at someone else. If you consider tattle tailing on them every chance I could then yes. I got so many people in school suspention because of that. I really just had a zero tolerance rate.
    Lucky for you that your school considered it a problem. At my school the problem was seen to be with the children who got harassed. They had "social problems" and needed to "get with the program." A handful of adult teachers even engaged in verbal harassment and ridicule of those who didn't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Lucky for you that your school considered it a problem. At my school the problem was seen to be with the children who got harassed. They had "social problems" and needed to "get with the program." A handful of adult teachers even engaged in verbal harassment and ridicule of those who didn't fit.
    Yes, bullying is contagious. It takes a person of exceptional character to stand against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Yes, bullying is contagious. It takes a person of exceptional character to stand against it.
    More than that, it was ingrained in the local culture. Seen as part of the conformity process. Conform or be cast out and if you're cast out, you're subhuman----suitable to be food for the wolves and therefore apt fodder for their golden children to sharpen their teeth on to become good predators in the greater world beyond.

    I also saw my nieces and nephews go through this school system, things didn't change. How can they? The majority of parents support it as proper and good for breeding up fighters.

    Unlike Biax, I don't have a tough physcial exterior but I am aware of a certain emotional serrated edge left behind by this.

    Edit: I also know there are people who will read my post and agree with those parents too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post

    Unlike Biax, I don't have a tough physical exterior but I am aware of a certain emotional serrated edge left behind by this.


    I made myself this way. So that bullies would think twice before deciding to try and harass me, or those I might be with.

    My adaption is more blatant, an axe or club. As opposed to you, a derringer hidden in a pocket or a boot knife, not obvious till it's needed. But they serve their purpose.



    Edit: I also know there are people who will read my post and agree with those parents too.
    I have nothing against healthy competition. But some people should be sterilized immediately, before they have children, and instill in them their twisted views of what makes a strong person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    I've been known to go out of my way to defend someone I perceive as being bullied.

    I still remember being the short and fat kid, with bad skin. Who just wanted to be left alone.

    Who wasn't particularly good at anything. Except being a target for kids with more hormones than brains. In consequence, I became very good at reading body language and intent.

    I don't find "kids will be kids" to be an adequate excuse for the way some children treat those who are different. It sounds like a cop-out by parents who are too lazy, too stupid, or just plain don't care, about raising well balanced, intelligent, children.

    These days, I have little tolerance for bullying....
    This is very similar to my situation...I decided to hit the wieghts when I was about 16 or so...I grew fast at the time and the biggest reaction that I remember was not so much that the bullying abruptly stopped, but that people who never would have noticed me before and others who deliberately ignored me suddenly courted me as a friend...invited me to parties and wanted to share confidences and resources...WTF? I was the same person I was before, just much stronger. I began to resent this shallow treatment and kept my habit of isolation or building solid relationships one at a time...One good friend is worth a hundred acquaintences.

    I started intervening in bullying situations. It felt good. In my early 20's I was out with a friend one afternoon at a convenience store in a very diverse nieghborhood. There was a skinny little fellow who was being slapped around and intimidated by a local tough. It turned out that the little guy and my friend were old pals so he was looking our way for help. His burly tattoed tormentor sneered at us "...they won't do anything" Well, that tore it. I spent a few moments carfeully adjusting his attitude, he was afterwards loaded into the back of his girlfriends car and driven away.

    So, cut to a few years later and Skinny Little fellow is married (to a very nice young girl) and has produced a few skinny little carbon copies. He is a drunk. He abuses his wife and neglects his children. He was always a cute little loud mouth with much confiidence and had no trouble charming people. This is his resource, how he navigates life. I realized then that he probably needed to have his ass kicked long ago...that there may have been a valid reason for what was happening (although the dynamics of the situation merited my response). So I became much more selective about when and where I intervened. I still won't tolerate bullying...I just mangage it differently. I try to diffuse the situation without confrontation; let things cool down get back to a normal level for the circumstance give each person room to see the silliness of the situation. Some can't and never will. Too bad.

    As for the observation that there is bullying on this forum...well this sort of pseudo-intellectual intimidation finds it origins in the same places the old street bullying does, cowardly attention-seekers. Most of it is laughable. Some is downright mean-spirited. It is all easily ignorable with a push of a button. Part of the price we pay for an open forum is the possibilities of posts that may offend our sensibilities. Not suprising in a form of communication where you can "hide" behind a monitor spewing out barbs with little consequence. Like real bullying, as long as it is tolerated (or suprisingly under the guise of free speech even supported) it will continue. I can certainly tolerate it (mostly) except that my fear is that it may drive away very thoughtful and productive posters who could bring the general level of discussion up farther than it might otherwise.
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