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    Quote Originally Posted by Hang View Post
    I'm starting to admire INTJs a bit more because of what Antisocial one said.
    Yeah, INTJs are smart. Just look at how he opened the debate. He chose a topic with a premise that asserts a negative stereotype of NFs that cannot be debated with resort to data since data does not exist. It can only be answered with personal experience, but that sets the NF up to be stereotyped yet again.

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    Are we considering strong F's vs strong T's? If ind middle of the road folks to usually get a long pretty well, just have differing view points at times (principles vs. rationality for example).

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    But why did you mention that you do not know about almost nothing about NT - NF relations at work?

    Why didn't you create theoretical model for you argument but instead you gave a lot of personal information?

    Since topic is what it is I dont see a reason to post so much and in so many painfull details if you don't feel personaly attacked or emotionaly connected to situation.

    If you want to say that you are proud of what you have achieved that is ok.
    Don't you think that this job would have been easier in the case that it wasn't so stressfull. The stronger T can have easy time in many situation because they don't create emotional connection with the situation.

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    What do we have when we have an F type who is bad with people? This is constantly what they are praised for, in opposition to a T's logic.

    I suppose what we have is the same as a T who is unable to think logically, or an N who is unable to make connections, or an S who cannot connect with their environment.

    We have a failure.

    So does that mean we can dismiss these NFs who are 'bad with people' as being poor examples of NFs?
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    Three men are in a hot-air balloon. Soon, they find themselves lost
    in a canyon somewhere. One of the three men says, "I've got an idea.
    We can call for help in this canyon and the echo will carry our voices
    far."

    So he leans over the basket and yells out, "Helllloooooo! Where are
    we?" (They hear the echo several times.)

    15 minutes later, they hear this echoing voice: "Helllloooooo! You're
    lost!!"

    One of the men says, "That must have been a mathematician."

    Puzzled, one of the other men asks, "Why do you say that?"

    The reply: "For three reasons. (1) he took a long time to answer, (2)
    he was absolutely correct, and (3) his answer was absolutely useless."

    xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Three men are in a hot-air balloon. Soon, they find themselves lost
    in a canyon somewhere. One of the three men says, "I've got an idea.
    We can call for help in this canyon and the echo will carry our voices
    far."

    So he leans over the basket and yells out, "Helllloooooo! Where are
    we?" (They hear the echo several times.)

    15 minutes later, they hear this echoing voice: "Helllloooooo! You're
    lost!!"

    One of the men says, "That must have been a mathematician."

    Puzzled, one of the other men asks, "Why do you say that?"

    The reply: "For three reasons. (1) he took a long time to answer, (2)
    he was absolutely correct, and (3) his answer was absolutely useless."

    xD
    Now I know why I didn't study math!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    What do we have when we have an F type who is bad with people?
    Me

    So does that mean we can dismiss these NFs who are 'bad with people' as being poor examples of NFs?
    Yes, please.

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    Define 'good' and 'bad' with people. Those are highly subjective terms.
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    Feelings are unpredictable and inconsistent.
    It is dangerous to rely entirely on feelings.

    I think it all matters by how much the NF chooses to discard logic- someone who is naturally an F who understands that decisions have to be made based on reasons and not simply whims can get along fantastically with NT types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    Feelings are unpredictable and inconsistent.
    It is dangerous to rely entirely on feelings.

    I think it all matters by how much the NF chooses to discard logic- someone who is naturally an F who understands that decisions have to be made based on reasons and not simply whims can get along fantastically with NT types.
    And those of us who can do both?
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