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    Yes, this is a very interesting discussion.

    Thanks for sharing your stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    ...My point here is that everybody in this thread have only been on one side and I am probably the only one on this forum which was on the other. And what is sure is that I am the only who is willing to share the experiance and insight of the other side..

    What happened to me that night wasn't done by my choice or it was planned. It just happened that she run into me in the place where she did not expect somebody.
    Oh. So essentially she reacted to you as if you were a threat and/or stalker type, because of the context of the situation, even if your intentions were positive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Algora J View Post
    OT, I felt the same way about John Edwards watching him in the Democratic debates. There's just something about that man that feels "wrong" to me. I'm not comparing him to incidents 1-3, but definitely something about him brings about those atavistic instincts within myself in which tells you not to trust that individual.
    You're not alone on this; he repulsed me straight away. To be fair, he does seem sleazy in a way I'd think even the intuition-deficient could pick up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Oh. So essentially she reacted to you as if you were a threat and/or stalker type, because of the context of the situation, even if your intentions were positive?
    And this without reading his posts on MBTIc. Hmm . . . She's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    You're not alone on this; he repulsed me straight away. To be fair, he does seem sleazy in a way I'd think even the intuition-deficient could pick up.
    Can you always trust your intuition? I mean... I felt similarly... he looked too polished... too smooth... reminded me of Kennedy... but then I felt like I wasn't giving him the benefit of the doubt...

    Though I realize you're not one for giving people the benefit of the doubt... at least not easily...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel De Mazarin View Post
    Can you always trust your intuition? I mean... I felt similarly... he looked too polished... too smooth... reminded me of Kennedy... but then I felt like I wasn't giving him the benefit of the doubt...

    Though I realize you're not one for giving people the benefit of the doubt... at least not easily...
    No, you cannot trust it entirely. That's the rub. I have given people the benefit of the doubt based on intuition before and been wrong. Is that a failure of intuition? Perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Oh. So essentially she reacted to you as if you were a threat and/or stalker type, because of the context of the situation, even if your intentions were positive?

    If you take the context, I think that there is no sane women out there who would not done the same. My intentions were not good or bad it just happened.


    The context was : night with some moonlight, graveyard ,Christmas, guy in black behind your back.

    Now somebody could ask me what the hell I was doing in the graveyard at night?

    I live near one graveyard and I am astronomy geek. So I always have problem with lights but at the graveyard there is no light so this is the atmosphere I need. But I would be telling lies if I would say that the combination of night, moon, silence and graves is not attractive to me.

    But in the situation we are talking about I was visiting grandfathers grave.

    Since it was really nice night I took a short walk around the graveyard.
    But the graveyard is like one big labyrinth so it turned out that I appeared out of nowhere and behind her back.

    I have posted my original post in this thread because I know that I can run 5 times faster than her. In the case that I was a maniac I could have done what ever I wanted because there was no one there, just us and graves.

    When you are runing away from better runner it is important that you are not too slow. So if you have advantage of 15 meters there is a possibility that you can escape if you are running behind the corners all the time.
    That is because that can make him stop for a moment to think where you have gone or to hear from which direction the sound of running is coming from.
    Your advantage is that you direct direction and with some luck and running speed you have the chance to lose him.
    So my point is that you don't have to be super runner to escape. But from what I have seen the woman was way too slow. (she was not fat).

    Later she and I have meet each other once again at the graveyards door where she was catching her breath and have a little chat about what happened.
    She said to me something like " The moment when I have realized that you are not running after me was one of the most wonderful moments in my life."

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    Another great story. This thread is A+.
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    ^ agree.

    It's something I've never really thought about. Sure in a situation where I'm walking down a dark street on my own I'm alert and reactive but in some of the situations described I may have let my social graces override my intuition. Got to go read that book. Thanks.

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    I think as far as instincts go, it's important for women to remember that you do NOT owe it to the antagonist to "understand" his feelings or yours in a moment of perceived threat. Your job is to get away from that threat, and THEN when you're safely away, you can analyze the situation at leisure and fully understand what set your Fight-Flight instinct in motion.

    You are NOT to psychoanalyze yourself, coach yourself, apply false reason, read motive into the aggressor's actions. You are to GET AWAY.

    Analysis is for later.

    I recall being confronted with some plastered punk-low lifes at a party for a friend. One of them was up in my business and touched my face, I smacked his hand, it got VERY dodgey for a split second before I made a joke that broke the tension and he laughed. An ISTJ friend of mine standing near me told me later that she had no idea how I managed to smack a drunk idiot and STILL get him to laugh/like me, but she was certain she was going to have start swinging unless a miracle of diplomacy occurred. Fortunately (and surprisingly) it did. I got myself (sis and friend included) out of there immediately.
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    One incident when my intuition backfired, though was accurate, was a time I was alone sunbathing at an old haunt.

    Eyes closed, I sensed that someone was in my presence and I looked up to see a man very nearby holding a pair of binoculars which he had trained on me. I closed my eyes again briefly and when I reopened them he was still gawking.

    Ok. My thought process: This is a voyeur. Voyeurs are very timid and easily shamed.

    I sat up and told him to stop training his binoculars on me. Since he didn't immediately respond I said a few things about voyeurism being the habit of young boys and that maybe he needed to look at himself. That I didn't intend for him to use my body for his afternoon's entertainment.

    To my surprise he spewed an intense tirade with considerable name-calling and agression involved.

    Since we were essentially alone in that area of the pond. I arose, picked up my things and walked to my car where I began jotting his license number down to call and give the police a heads-up on this man. Something didn't add up.

    Several other details of his appearance, the time of day, the way he was dressed and the type of vehicle began to help me realize that this man was not a voyeur. This man was a hunter - a predator in the physical sense of the word.

    He followed me from the beach and asked me what I was doing and I calmly and firmly answered with my intention and received another tirade.

    Needless to say I wasted no time in cutting off my verbal connection with this frightening human and get out of his space.

    When I called the police the officer laughed and said the man had already called them to report my verbal "attack" on him and added that they had received several other phone calls that day from other women.

    He was driving a delivery van with no windows in the compartment.. Several times in reflection I've shuddered and wondered if I may have found myself privy to the secrets he was carrying with him had I showed fear or lingered to engage him in any way.

    There are many ways to "run away" from a man and none are a guarantee.
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