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    Default Is sanity vs insanity a greater dividing line than...

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    I was reading an article by Gladstone on Cracked suggesting ways that college (university) accidentially prepared people for real life, he suggested that college was the first time he realised that insane and sane could be more accurate dividing lines than good versus evil in explaining behaviour, what do you think?

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    I'm not 100% sure on what was being suggested. Happen to have a link? I can see how insane vs sane could be a better dividing line then good vs evil. There are people out there who consider killing a fly an act of evil (regardless I choose to save flies.... Whoot! Not evil!)

    There had to be geniuses out there who have had their sanity questioned. Where do we get the title "the mad scientist" Many artist who were seen at brilliant were cleary insane. Van Gogh cut his ear off for heaven's sake!

    I think its a matter of perspective.

    That was quite a tangent..
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    I mean... Wait, what?

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    Good behavior.
    Evil behavior.
    Sane behavior.
    Insane behavior.

    Surely there are better options than relying on such banal extremes to explain behavior.

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    All I know is that cruelty is always justified in the mind of the cruel. The root of that justification process is personal ego/entitlement matched with the assumption that punishing others is 'just' and the only way to resolve personal anger.

    Let go of ego, and let go of the concept of punishment, and there may be no more evil in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    All I know is that cruelty is always justified in the mind of the cruel. The root of that justification process is personal ego/entitlement matched with the assumption that punishing others is 'just' and the only way to resolve personal anger.
    Punishment is often more about pleasure for the one with the power to punish than it is actually more about justice or improving social conditions.

    In the U.S., we have, for instance, a justice system centered around punishing people for nonviolent offenses that it set up to make it hard for them to rehabilitate into society once they finish serving out their excessive sentences.

    I would differ from anarchist philosophies (the ones that are actually anarchist), though, in arguing that the use of power is not always immoral. One must exercise power, for instance, to prevent a murder. That is not immoral.

    Regarding the O.P, I'm not sure if the issue is so much sanity vs. insanity. Not all mental illnesses are sociopathy, so I'm not comfortable drawing the line there. I also think sane people can be convinced to commit acts I would call evil, and I think it's disturbingly easy for this to happen.

    I think morality depends on having an individualized conscience, insulated from the fads and fashions of the peer group. What is important for what I consider to be "true morality" is knowledge of one's inner self, in addition to knowledge of others. Connections must be drawn so that the golden rule can be applied properly.

    The thing I'm still struggling with is what to do when people want different things from me, so doing what I would want done would not work.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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