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    Default "Cures" prevent the study of spontaneous remission?

    I'm reading a book about madness, ie psychosis, which discusses how the studies of psychiatrists and psychologists in the fifties and sixties were often long scale, thirty year biographies, which were able to study "spontaneous remission" or ways in which individuals with unmistakeable psychosis or "madness" adapted to their own "madness" and how it effected them in the world.

    Then there was the breakthroughs in pharmaceuticals which actually do transform the illness and therefore the lives of sufferers, however many of them never experience the "adaptive curve" which was once so studied.

    What do you think about this?

    I'm mindful of the fact that this could reflect changes in research and development, studies academic and professional etc.

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    What do you mean by they don't experience an "adaptive curve"?

    I am interested in this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    What do you mean by they don't experience an "adaptive curve"?

    I am interested in this subject.
    I think he what means is they learned to cope with their condition, a bit like a man with one leg getting really good at hopping.

    One the plus side, this adpative cure is entirely self contained - that is, they never have to worry about running out of their medicines, because there aren't any. This makes the patient more independent, which is usually good for confidence and self esteem. On the down side, it's going to take longer than a pharmacautical cure and no matter how good at it you get, hopping is unlikely to ever be as good as walking with two legs, or even a prosphetic.

    I supose it raises questions over the capabilities of the patient. If they can achieve such as thing in a resonable space of time, it may well be preferable to leaving them hooked on pills for the rest of their life. Then again, other patients would just get worse. I guess that's on of the difficulties of being a psychiatrist.
    Don't make whine out of sour grapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    What do you mean by they don't experience an "adaptive curve"?

    I am interested in this subject.
    When the pharmaceutical fix, or rather treatment, wasnt available a longer term study indicated, the author indicates, eventual adjustment which isnt going to happen if at the early stages pharmaceuticals can provide a different sort of fix more quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm reading a book about madness, ie psychosis, which discusses how the studies of psychiatrists and psychologists in the fifties and sixties were often long scale, thirty year biographies, which were able to study "spontaneous remission" or ways in which individuals with unmistakeable psychosis or "madness" adapted to their own "madness" and how it effected them in the world.

    Then there was the breakthroughs in pharmaceuticals which actually do transform the illness and therefore the lives of sufferers, however many of them never experience the "adaptive curve" which was once so studied.

    What do you think about this?

    I'm mindful of the fact that this could reflect changes in research and development, studies academic and professional etc.
    What is the book? I'm curious now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamine View Post
    What is the book? I'm curious now.
    Its the latest to be reviewed on my amazon.co.uk account, I think I rank 681 or something like that of the top reviewers, go read my review, vote and comment if you like, tell your friends too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Its the latest to be reviewed on my amazon.co.uk account, I think I rank 681 or something like that of the top reviewers, go read my review, vote and comment if you like, tell your friends too.
    Amazon's Top Customer Reviewers

    I have not stalked you enough to know what your username is on this site. I also lack the attention span to go through a few hundred pages to find out who the 681st reviewer is. I'm still interested in reading your review, but I don't have a half hour to kill going through pages hoping to find you. Apologies if I'm just technology challenged and there's an easier way of doing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamine View Post
    Amazon's Top Customer Reviewers

    I have not stalked you enough to know what your username is on this site. I also lack the attention span to go through a few hundred pages to find out who the 681st reviewer is. I'm still interested in reading your review, but I don't have a half hour to kill going through pages hoping to find you. Apologies if I'm just technology challenged and there's an easier way of doing this.
    It's easy, his username is the same there as it is here and it's the one with the profile picture with a corgi in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I cordially invite you all to visit my profile on Amazon.co.uk and vote on my reviews of everything, leaving helpful votes and comments if you choose. My profile has a picture of my Corgi and my username is Lark as it is here. I am about 510 in the rankings of reviewers at the moment. Thanks in advance for taking the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamine View Post
    Amazon's Top Customer Reviewers

    I have not stalked you enough to know what your username is on this site. I also lack the attention span to go through a few hundred pages to find out who the 681st reviewer is. I'm still interested in reading your review, but I don't have a half hour to kill going through pages hoping to find you. Apologies if I'm just technology challenged and there's an easier way of doing this.
    Amazon.co.uk :Profile for Lark

    That might work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Hey, thanks!
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