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    Default Psychologically speaking, what is Kanye West's deal?

    Sorry if this offends any Kanye fans, but I think it's pretty obvious that the dude is unstable. He has consistently shown that he has narcissistic tendencies, delusions of grandeur, an extremely volatile temper, a history of violence, and almost no understanding of social etiquette. He also seems to lack empathy for others; even when he defends other people, it's clearly a ploy to gain more attention. And his reactions to criticism are... like a child throwing a tantrum. I've never seen such extreme attention-whoring in my life. He actually STOPPED a concert and threw a fit because one person wasn't on their feet, worshiping him. The person turned out to be in a wheelchair.

    This is seriously unhealthy behavior. He seems insane, and possibly dangerous. Has this guy ever had professional help?
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    He's just an extroverted somatic narcissist.

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    Kanye has fans?

    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    He actually STOPPED a concert and threw a fit because one person wasn't on their feet, worshiping him. The person turned out to be in a wheelchair.
    Not strictly true, as far as I recall he asked everyone to get on their feet for a particular song next up on his setlist, and as soon as he realised the chap was disabled he said "Well if he's in a wheelchair it's okay", and then proceeded with the set.


    He's just become so used to the media and loud minorities within the public giving a damn what he does or has to say. What always irritates me is that if I acted like Kayne even half of the time I'd end up in prison and/or a secure mental unit within 3 months, but when you're famous it's just a bit of drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuffney View Post
    Kanye has fans?



    Not strictly true, as far as I recall he asked everyone to get on their feet for a particular song next up on his setlist, and as soon as he realised the chap was disabled he said "Well if he's in a wheelchair it's okay", and then proceeded with the set.


    He's just become so used to the media and loud minorities within the public giving a damn what he does or has to say. What always irritates me is that if I acted like Kayne even half of the time I'd end up in prison and/or a secure mental unit within 3 months, but when you're famous it's just a bit of drama.
    Kanye West is so severely narcissistic that he actually sounds psychotic or retarded at times, and that might not be that weird if he was drunk, but this is an apparently a consistent and sober behavior. Like seriously when he did the thing to Taylor Swift, I was like, oh he was just being a drunk ghetto asshole who has some deep seated hatred of middle class white women. But then when he started talking about being the next Nelson Mandela and decided to make the Confederate flag his, I was like...um...oh yeah, ok. I actually don't think he's very smart. If he were a more intelligent narcissist he would probably anger me, because narcissistic people often do, but no he's just kind of like....wut bro.

    Probably because he's a proud non reader of books. He's an ignorant narcissist, so what they say sounds that much more absurd.

    Either that, or he actually has a mental illness. I read an article where someone broke it down to narcissistic personality disorder, someone who has a professional background (though not necessarily a license, I think professionals can have their license revoked for public speculative diagnosis. ..) and a psych student chimed in that she or he actually thought Kanye shows negative characteristics of schizophrenia....however, narcissistic people can become grandiose and delusional to the point of being obtusely conspicuous.

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    Compensatory narcissism, imo. He's insanely insecure. Listen to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.

    God tier producer, tho. Really talented. And he almost singlehandedly pushed gangsta rap out of the mainstream and replaced it with his brand of alternative hiphop, has 3 modern hiphop classics under his belt, and almost all of his musical output is lauded by everyone everywhere. That could easily inflate anyone's ego to ridiculous levels.
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    Oh no. He's probably incredibly secure. I looked up his early life and he wanted to be a rapper since the third grade. This is likely what a person does when they have won life. I know the type of person. They're interesting people. Narcissism to compensate is interesting though. If it is true, then I am likely a narcissist. Hence why that is not true. I am more self focused and introspective though, and this is a great example of that. In fact, at times it is the opposite of narcissism. Of course this is debatable, might make a thread about it.

    He seems to think his success is because god is watching out for him. These kinds of people are fearless.

    "I know I got angels watchin me from the other side."

    Very religious person, ironically.

    Pretty much, I see it as though he sees himself as having worked very hard to get to where he was. This pisses people off. I'm on the mind to agree with him though, after reading his bio. The crazy stuff he does is his break from the hard work perceived. Or he is incredibly stressed and this is his way of relaxing. I don't know which. Could be both or neither. I could be spouting stuff that is incorrect.

    But yeah, I believe he isn't too hard a thinker, and more a hard worker, and this also contributes to people thinking he's dumb and lazy even though he is quite bright and hard working. Proof is in the fame and fortune. He's also brutally honest. I find that when a person is that brutally honest, they're weird. Just by being so honest.

    For more research I listened to his album my beautiful dark twisted fantasy, as suggested. First words he said were "I fantasized about this in Chicago." I only listened to dark fantasy. Seems a metaphor for his success. He was in the shadow though, which is odd for the supposed narcissist. Obviously trying to distract focus from himself and promote attraction to the rest of the stage. Also referred to himself as an average person who struck it big. I believe such is the metaphor of this, although it is under the soprano line of "so high".

    Counter argument? His solo in that song seemed improvised, putting an exceptional amount of faith in his own ability. Crowd didn't seem to mind how out of pitch he was in the second verse. Could be my own experience with music making it magnified to me.

    Link: Kanye West - Dark Fantasy ft. Teyana Taylor - YouTube

    Conclusion: he is a narcissist, but this is explainable because he is successful and is living his dream, and thus logically has a strong self image. But I'm sure internally there is a rift, and thus the compensation. He could feel guilt for his fame and fortune, or remorse for giving up the humble life. So, that's my guess, hope you understand, even though I cannot assume that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    Sorry if this offends any Kanye fans, but I think it's pretty obvious that the dude is unstable. He has consistently shown that he has narcissistic tendencies, delusions of grandeur, an extremely volatile temper, a history of violence, and almost no understanding of social etiquette. He also seems to lack empathy for others; even when he defends other people, it's clearly a ploy to gain more attention. And his reactions to criticism are... like a child throwing a tantrum. I've never seen such extreme attention-whoring in my life. He actually STOPPED a concert and threw a fit because one person wasn't on their feet, worshiping him. The person turned out to be in a wheelchair.

    This is seriously unhealthy behavior. He seems insane, and possibly dangerous. Has this guy ever had professional help?
    well said.

    if only the grammy's respected artistry as much as kanye does.



    this might shed some light on his rampant narcissism and emotional ineptitude, discussing his latest debacle at the grammy's:

    "Right when that happened, everybody was looking at me and then people started screaming, 'Kanye! Kanye! Go do it!' Okay, that didn't really happen. These were voices in my head," West told Ryan Seacrest on his KIIS FM radio show Wednesday morning. "So the voices in my head told me go and then I just walked up like halfway up the stage."
    "I was asked my opinion and I was given a platform. And when given a platform, it's very hard as we know – and I'm going to talk in third person like I'm a crazy person – but it's very hard for Kanye West to not be very true and vocal to what he feels," he said. "You know, it's like people take the Grammys for granted in a way because of the commercials, because a lot of the musicians are very rich and everything, but this is our Super Bowl."

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    "Everything I'm not made me everything I am. In my humble opinion, that's a prophetic statement. Gandhi would have said something like that." "I feel like a little bit, like, I'm the Braveheart of creativity."

    The Kanye West self-confidence generator makes me so happy. But ego aside, he is at least talented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    Sorry if this offends any Kanye fans, but I think it's pretty obvious that the dude is unstable. He has consistently shown that he has narcissistic tendencies, delusions of grandeur, an extremely volatile temper, a history of violence, and almost no understanding of social etiquette. He also seems to lack empathy for others; even when he defends other people, it's clearly a ploy to gain more attention. And his reactions to criticism are... like a child throwing a tantrum. I've never seen such extreme attention-whoring in my life. He actually STOPPED a concert and threw a fit because one person wasn't on their feet, worshiping him. The person turned out to be in a wheelchair.

    This is seriously unhealthy behavior. He seems insane, and possibly dangerous. Has this guy ever had professional help?
    In my opinion...well I mean it's based on the fact that he is pretty dumb with regards to everything except for music. Kanye can barely string a coherent sentence without speaking broken English, he probably knows nothing about anything except for making beats and even his rhymes are pretty crappy and uninspired compared to less known rappers.

    His fame and success is no indication of his skill...as it goes with all artists...and he is ignorant and lacks for education....so he is the ideal representative the media wishes to portray of African males since the media is biased and racist.

    On one hand he complains about racism but on the other he helps propagate negative stereotypes. He is the court jester of our society and undoubtedly will help feed the prison system as Jay Z does too...as rap music iS correlated to violate behaviors in young men.
    He is probably a narcissist with a very low iq.

    If I had to guess...he is among the least intelligent people on the planet...low iq, to the level of 85-90, is accompanied by lack of control of impulse. Kanye is undoubtedly a strange man but he proved up and part of the structure which promotes racism. He is a Trojan horse Uncle Tom
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