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    I hope all fields employing people with the attitude "I know I can help you with your vague, undefinable psychological problems--by talking to you" bite the dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I hope all fields employing people with the attitude "I know I can help you with your vague, undefinable psychological problems--by talking to you" bite the dust.
    Wow, that's deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Wow, that's deep.
    You've got me beat there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    You've got me beat there.
    Are you going to leave the thread in a huff, again?

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    I've always been here. Have you ever seen The Shining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Are you talking about homeopathic medicine or acupuncture and whatnot? (Or both?)
    Ah yes, missed this question before... when I think eastern medicine I'd include all the homeopathic/alternative approaches, like acupuncture, chelation, IV infusions, herbal supplements... etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    I also asked another question that you may have missed, but actually, it doesn't matter, because I think the field of medicine and psychotherapy are structured very differently. You can see that just by considering how you would go about infiltrating both.

    If you wanted to unleash an Eastern medicine or medical practice in the West, there are several hurdles to jump. You would need FDA approval if we're talking abount medication. Even if you succeed in acquiring approval, you would need to find a distributor. The distributor would be concerned with sales and efficacym and efficacy turns on the question of empirical validation which again costs money and poses a major hurdle. Then, on top of everything, you have to worry about gigantic lawsuits which means even more testing and more resistance on the part of a company (or individual doctor) to adopt your idea or medicine.

    On the other hand, lets imagine trying to introduce some type of therauptic technique. The regulatory restrictions are lax if not absent as long as you don't touch your patient or violate confidentiality. A therapeutic technique costs NOTHING to export and transmit since it's not anything physical. The product, in this case, therapy, can be offered to individual practitioners rather than major companies because major corporations aren't the only ones capable of offering therapy, both for practical and legal reasons. A therapist would have a much easier time accepting the technique, because the standard is more relaxed: it simply has to seem like a good idea to the therapist; psychotherapists (as well as their "consumers") aren't as dependent on empirical research as medicine is. Finally, litigation is really at a minimum in the field of psychotherapy, so there is less risk posed by making changes to one's therapeutic toolbox by incorporating new techniques.

    It's too early, I think, to say whether therapists will take more interest in Eastern ideas than medical practitioners have. But, if you take a glance at your local Banes & Noble, many of the books featured in the Self Improvement section have an Eastern twist.
    I still think the main issue in integrating these two approaches (whether in general medicine or mental health) is that it requires a great deal of training and education to become an expert in either. It's more feasible for certain people to be experts at either western psychotherapy or eastern meditation/yoga practices than for one person to go through all the training to be an expert at both. I think western psychotherapists can casually learn about eastern techniques and incorporate them into their practice (and many do), but this isn't the same thing as being an expert in that field and having all the knowledge to navigate various hurdles that come up (ie hindrances in meditation, etc).

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    A chip implanted in your head will report to a central computer when you're having negative thoughts that affect your worker productivity and feel good endorprins will be released, no more pesky personal thoughts and feelings interfering with life...and as Cohen says Everybody Knows!

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