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    As a Russian, with Arab descent, who is born in Yugoslavia in catholic family with Celtic heritage massively shaped by Slavic cultural influence, I must say, I don't know a shit about Americans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hacbad macbar View Post
    As a Russian, with Arab descent, who is born in Yugoslavia in catholic family with Celtic heritage massively shaped by Slavic cultural influence, I must say, I don't know a shit about Americans.

    That must have been tough...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    we can certainly talk about clichés about Americans but lets not pretend that there is anything deep or scientific to it and let us please not misuse the term "archetype".
    OMG, I am being torn to pieces by Red Herring.

    What can I possibly say in my defence in the face of such an onslaught?

    I enlist our guru, Carl Gustav Jung, and I quote him directly thus -

    "Archetypes are the psychic residua of numberless experiences of the same type".
    - Jung, "On the Relation of Analytic Psychology to Poetic Art", London, 1928.

    In other words, the study of cliches leads us to the archetypes. So the study of American, Australian or even German cliches leads us to the respective American, Australian and German archetypes.

    But don't take my word for it, and you don't even have to take our guru's word, all you have to do is read "From Cliche to Archetype" by Marshall McLuhan. Just click on http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/a..._Archetype.pdf

    Do remember, dear Red Herring, that Mole is a sensitive little beast who holds you in high regard, so please tear me to pieces as gently as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    OMG, I am being torn to pieces by Red Herring.

    What can I possibly say in my defence in the face of such an onslaught?

    I enlist our guru, Carl Gustav Jung, and I quote him directly thus -
    Our guru? He's not my guru, that's for sure.
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    Our guru, Carl Jung, wrote about personality types and archetypes.

    And although it is correct to talk about personality types here, it is politically incorrect to talk about archetypes. In fact archetypes are dismissed as stereotypes.

    We understand archetypes through the study of cliches. And as cliched English is the only English spoken here, it would seem we are in a wonderful position to understand Jungian archetypes, if only archetypes weren't politically incorrect.

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    When I first joined Central so long ago I wrote in freshly minted English, which was incomprehensible to my fellow members who wrote only cliched English. So in order to be understood, I also started to write in cliched English.

    But not only do we write in cliched English, we also write in the jargon of mbti.

    And both cliched English and jargon point towards the Jungian archetypes.

    But archetypes make the members so uncomfortable, archetypes are verboten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    When I first joined Central so long ago I wrote in freshly minted English, which was incomprehensible to my fellow members who wrote only cliched English. So in order to be understood, I also started to write in cliched English.

    But not only do we write in cliched English, we also write in the jargon of mbti.

    And both cliched English and jargon point towards the Jungian archetypes.

    But archetypes make the members so uncomfortable, archetypes are verboten.
    This isn't JungCentral. Its original name as you know was MBTIcentral, and it would still have that name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hacbad macbar View Post
    As a Russian, with Arab descent, who is born in Yugoslavia in catholic family with Celtic heritage massively shaped by Slavic cultural influence, I must say, I don't know a shit about Americans.

    Governments erect pretty buildings so they can post pretty pictures. But behind the pretty pictures lie scenes of cruel poverty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Governments erect pretty buildings so they can post pretty pictures. But behind the pretty pictures lie scenes of cruel poverty.
    Amen.

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