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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    It's true I am deeply affected by the Romantic Movement.

    I was so affected I became a hippy.

    You remember, there were three types of hippie - the political hippy, the drug hippy and the mystical hippy. I was a mystical hippy.

    But I was awakened from my sleep of Romanticism by the destruction of the Twin Towers.

    And I struggle to stay awake to keep the promises of the Enlightenment.

    And I am in excellent company, along with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is visiting us at the moment.
    You live a life based on fear of terrorism? But we lived in a world of terror and fear all along, way before September 11, 2001.

    Why is it always about extremism? I am not talking about being a hippy. I was suggesting balance between reason and feeling because as humans, we cannot escape our feeling and if we try to deny it, then it goes into shadow and can erupt in violent ventings. So it's better to gain a balance between the two and throw out neither the Enlightenment nor the Romantic age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    1. The British burned the first White House, not the Australians. Have you changed your country then?
    C'mon, we are a member of the British Commonwealth. We loved being part of the British Empire. Our Queen, Elizabeth, is British. All our institutions are British and we beat the British at cricket. And we share a similar sense of humour.

    And on top of all that we had a referendum in 1999 asking whether we wished to keep our Queen, Elizabeth. And all of the country voted to keep the Queen, except for one small territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    ....are you....declaring war on the USA?
    I wouldn't try it kid. You probably don't know but we have our military officers embeded in the highest echelons of the Pentagon. So if you make any move, we will be the first to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I wouldn't try it kid. You probably don't know but we have our military officers embeded in the highest echelons of the Pentagon. So if you make any move, we will be the first to know.
    First off, thank you for calling me "kid".

    Second, you are the one declaring war, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Second, you are the one declaring war, not me.
    Let's be rational about this. We have a military of 25,000 members to defend the Continent of Australia and half the Continent of Antarctica, together with Sovereign Seas of an even larger area.

    Most of our military are on peace keeping missions across the globe, together with some fighting in Afganistan.

    Just one of your aircraft carriers could knock out our entire airforce.

    So do you really think this mouse will roar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Let's be rational about this. We have a military of 25,000 members to defend the Continent of Australia and half the Continent of Antarctica, together with Sovereign Seas of an even larger area.

    Most of our military are on peace keeping missions across the globe, together with some fighting in Afganistan.

    Just one of your aircraft carriers could knock out our entire airforce.

    So do you really think this mouse will roar?
    I don't think anything about it, you were the one saying you would fire on US ships.

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    When are you two going to make out already? I can't stand all this foreplay. It's like watching scrambled porn...enough to get you wondering, but always unsatisfying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I don't think anything about it, you were the one saying you would fire on US ships.
    I was talking about the nineteenth century. This is the twenty-first century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    When are you two going to make out already? I can't stand all this foreplay. It's like watching scrambled porn...enough to get you wondering, but always unsatisfying.
    I am wondering as well. But I think it is conflict that serves a purpose. I don't know what that purpose is. But I suspect it is purely defensive.

    But what I don't know is what it is defending. I suspect the defender doesn't know what they are defending.

    But it is a very strong defence. It has the energy to keep on going and going.

    And this is what you would expect. Imagine that part of you is trying to speak, but you can't listen. But that part has suffered so much, it will never give up. And it pervades everything you do and say but is invisible.

    It sounds to me like ressentiment which is also all pervasive and invisible and affects everything you do and say, from the tone of your voice to the expression on your face, to the very thoughts you have. And desperately seeks to be heard, not by speaking, but by acting out.

    So the thing to do is not to listen to what we are saying but watch what we are doing. And that is just what you are doing, Edahn.

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