5-10% compared to what percentage of people who would become sober without it?
my issue is not the fact that for some people it's a good program, my issue is they claim there's no other solution and say a bunch of stuff that ended up not being true and if you look into you realize for most people their claims do not end being true.
"An upsidedown wire heart
Being sucked into a periscope
Still the mind is dull
Like you need another excuse"
… a theory is primarily a form of insight, i.e. a way of looking
at the world, and not a form of knowledge of how the world is….
.. all our different ways of thinking are to be considered as
different ways of looking at the one reality, each with some
domain in which it is clear and adequate…. - David Bohm