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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    popular culture is filled with violence.
    There is a big difference between violence on the screen and actual violence.

    And most of the violence on the screen is choreographed. It is a stylised violence for entertainment, while real violence makes most of us sick. So they won't show real violence on the screen.

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    here is a link with info on violent crime statistics in the US since 1960. a bunch of charts for individual crimes too. while it's great things have gotten better since the peak in the 90s if we go back a few decades we can see crime has increased quite a lot overall.

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    Because western culture is a culture of perceived scarcity and violence is a reaction to competition for resources.
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    So you've heard of shooting up a school, but apparently you've never heard of "knifing up" a school which occurs in China.

    School attacks in China (2010
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I read somewhere that Neanderthals may in fact have been matriarchal and less violent than homo sapiens sapiens (though the source was a tad questionable)
    Somewhere I read that they were extremely xenophobic, hated outsiders. This might be an interesting read (don't know how reliable this is though): Garret LoPorto: Surprising Way Your Neanderthal Genes May Affect You
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eilonwy View Post
    Because western culture is a culture of perceived scarcity and violence is a reaction to competition for resources.
    it's only "perceived" this way by the middle class and rich. if you live in poverty (which many do), it can be incredibly treacherous and scarce of resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    it's only "perceived" this way by the middle class and rich. if you live in poverty (which many do), it can be incredibly treacherous and scarce of resources.
    This is true. Since I'm in the U.S. and coming from that perspective, if this article and this article are correct, then even our poor are better off, as far as resources go, than most of the rest of the poor in the world, and even better off than many of the well-off in some countries.

    However, I'll change what I said to "Because western culture is a culture of real and perceived scarcity and violence is a reaction to competition for resources." so it'll be more accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eilonwy View Post
    This is true. Since I'm in the U.S. and coming from that perspective, if this article and this article are correct, then even our poor are better off, as far as resources go, than most of the rest of the poor in the world, and even better off than many of the well-off in some countries.

    However, I'll change what I said to "Because western culture is a culture of real and perceived scarcity and violence is a reaction to competition for resources." so it'll be more accurate.
    i know this is also what i've been told about standards of living when i have been in the developing world. namely, that being middle-class in the US is the equivalent–literally–of living like royalty in nepal. usually, we are told violence is higher where there is greater poverty but in the US we don't realize how much we have compared to the rest of the world and still have high levels of violence for a developed country. so, we have wealth from a global perspective and high levels of violence for the developed world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildflower View Post
    i know this is also what i've been told about standards of living when i have been in the developing world. namely, that being middle-class in the US is the equivalent–literally–of living like royalty in nepal. usually, we are told violence is higher where there is greater poverty but in the US we don't realize how much we have compared to the rest of the world and still have high levels of violence for a developed country. so, we have wealth from a global perspective and high levels of violence for the developed world.
    And in particular, you have high levels of gun violence.

    And it's a peculiar combination, commented on by your President, and that is the combination of christianity and guns.

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    It doesn't seem to be that prevalent in real life, to me. Are school shootings and things like that more common? Sure, but they also provide a ton of attention now and the idea is common knowledge. However, I find it extremely difficult to believe that things like assault are more common now. You can't even get into a fist fight in a public place now without going to jail, when that used to be much more common place. I think that media sensationalism and fear mongering make it seem much worse than it is. Even the statistics are hard to take seriously because I highly doubt that aggravated assault was reported in 1960 like it is today.

    Honestly, how often do most of the people here even see something as basic as a person getting punched in real life?
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