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    Default A podcast on learning to control your mind - and consequently your emotions

    This guy crystallises and synthesises a process that goes on in my head instinctively, and has helped me untangle some knots in the areas where I'm unable to fully execute it. Iow, he is able to put into words what I have failed repeatedly to explain sufficiently when asked about it.

    And (for the T-users ) he even put together a 'mathematical' formula, called the 'Equation of Emotion'. The idea is to gain control over your own emotions by controlling your mind, using the formula. Occasionally, his way of going about it bugs me - when he uses too many buzz words, for instance- but in general his system basically worked to crystallise and synthesise my own process for me the way MBTI did in validating my perceptions of how people differed back in the day, so I figured I'd share.

    This particular podcast is focused on the 'Ego', but he does go into the equation as well, to give you a little sample of the core idea.

    http://iamspirituality.com/i-am-spir...-0005-the-ego/

    For those interested, he has a series of podcasts on this subjects as well as a book.
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    I like the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    This guy crystallises and synthesises a process that goes on in my head instinctively, and has helped me untangle some knots in the areas where I'm unable to fully execute it. Iow, he is able to put into words what I have failed repeatedly to explain sufficiently when asked about it.

    And (for the T-users ) he even put together a 'mathematical' formula, called the 'Equation of Emotion'. The idea is to gain control over your own emotions by controlling your mind, using the formula. Occasionally, his way of going about it bugs me - when he uses too many buzz words, for instance- but in general his system basically worked to crystallise and synthesise my own process for me the way MBTI did in validating my perceptions of how people differed back in the day, so I figured I'd share.

    This particular podcast is focused on the 'Ego', but he does go into the equation as well, to give you a little sample of the core idea.

    http://iamspirituality.com/i-am-spir...-0005-the-ego/

    For those interested, he has a series of podcasts on this subjects as well as a book.
    I also have a theory that in MBTI, the judging functions comprise our ego. In INFJs for instance, the ego is externally dependent on how other's feel about the individual (being socially accepted) thru INFJ's Fe and having a good understanding of things ? thru Ti.

    So an IxFJs' ego is mostly dependent on external feedback about the self. Developing tertiary Ti provides some kind of internal offset to the external dependence.

    Ti is like kind of providing counter arguments to people's external feedback about the IxFJ, which IxFJs tend to give a high regard. However in terms of function order, Ti still comes weak when compared to Fe. Therefore, for the ego to be less dependent on external feedback, IxFJs (or all types) has to develop their shadow functions so as to offset Fe with shadow-Fi in case of IxFJs, that is to say, IxFJs have to develop their internal set of values about their self, which they can fall back on to when someone criticizes or assaults them thru their Fe. Like "you are a lying and dishonest person" which is offset by "under some circumstances I don't need to be 100% honest to people who are not in my close circle and I am OK with that" kinda thing which somehow would dissipate the attack.

    Developing Se and Ne in IxFJs would also allow them to project themselves onto others when under assault, and retaliate by using those functions rather than internally analyzing every accusation using their Ni and Si.

    In xNFPs in this theory, ego would be dependent mostly on Fi (internal set of social\spiritual values) and somewhat on Te (material\utility value of the self). So xNFPs (or xxxPs in general) would be much less susceptible to external criticism in comparison to IxxJs (or xxxJs in general).

    How would an ego comprised mostly of Fi or Ti (like in IxxPs) be offended thru external feedback? When their Ti or Fi judgments or values ridiculed by others? They would just be angered if they are ridiculed but would really be offended if (they themselved are convinced) they turned out to be undeniably wrong I guess.

    I didn't watch his other videos but is there any parallel between this and what he talks about in relation to ego coming under attack, which results in formation of negative emotions?

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    Might be somewhat related:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    TThis particular podcast is focused on the 'Ego', but he does go into the equation as well, to give you a little sample of the core idea.

    http://iamspirituality.com/i-am-spir...-0005-the-ego/

    For those interested, he has a series of podcasts on this subjects as well as a book.
    I just don't get this fellow's point. The video seems simplistic to the point of uselessness. "How to remove negative emotions from your life entirely." Really? Is this even healthy? Is it possible to eradicate negative emotion without also removing positive emotion? I'm certainly no expert, but most advice I hear asserts the opposite, that one must take the good with the bad, just as life will bring both pleasure and pain. The point is not to let either cloud your judgment and lead you into choices that are harmful or you will regret.

    As for the rest, it doesn't add up. Ego includes your physical appearance, likes/dislikes, even your name . . . and all of this is false? I agree that there is more to a person than these aspects, but that just means this picture is incomplete, not that it is false. The consumer choices the speaker identifies are influenced by values, which I suppose he would consign to that false ego as well. So, take away our physical body, our preferences, relationships, and values - and what is left? For that matter, what is wrong with being sad when Grandma dies, or fearful when about to be attacked by a bear? Somewhere in there he also equates anger at being insulted (your political party sucks) with anger at having one's child struck. These situations are in no way comparable. I cannot take this fellow seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor
    [quote name="Amargith" post=2331735]This guy crystallises and synthesises a process that goes on in my head instinctively, and has helped me untangle some knots in the areas where I'm unable to fully execute it. Iow, he is able to put into words what I have failed repeatedly to explain sufficiently when asked about it.



    And (for the T-users ) he even put together a 'mathematical' formula, called the 'Equation of Emotion'. The idea is to gain control over your own emotions by controlling your mind, using the formula. Occasionally, his way of going about it bugs me - when he uses too many buzz words, for instance- but in general his system basically worked to crystallise and synthesise my own process for me the way MBTI did in validating my perceptions of how people differed back in the day, so I figured I'd share.



    This particular podcast is focused on the 'Ego', but he does go into the equation as well, to give you a little sample of the core idea.



    The Ego - I AM Spirituality Ep 0005 - I AM Emotional Intelligence Mindfulness



    For those interested, he has a series of podcasts on this subjects as well as a book.


    I also have a theory that in MBTI, the judging functions comprise our ego. In INFJs for instance, the ego is externally dependent on how other's feel about the individual (being socially accepted) thru INFJ's Fe and having a good understanding of things ? thru Ti.



    So an IxFJs' ego is mostly dependent on external feedback about the self. Developing tertiary Ti provides some kind of internal offset to the external dependence.



    Ti is like kind of providing counter arguments to people's external feedback about the IxFJ, which IxFJs tend to give a high regard. However in terms of function order, Ti still comes weak when compared to Fe. Therefore, for the ego to be less dependent on external feedback, IxFJs (or all types) has to develop their shadow functions so as to offset Fe with shadow-Fi in case of IxFJs, that is to say, IxFJs have to develop their internal set of values about their self, which they can fall back on to when someone criticizes or assaults them thru their Fe. Like "you are a lying and dishonest person" which is offset by "under some circumstances I don't need to be 100% honest to people who are not in my close circle and I am OK with that" kinda thing which somehow would dissipate the attack.



    Developing Se and Ne in IxFJs would also allow them to project themselves onto others when under assault, and retaliate by using those functions rather than internally analyzing every accusation using their Ni and Si.



    In xNFPs in this theory, ego would be dependent mostly on Fi (internal set of social\spiritual values) and somewhat on Te (material\utility value of the self). So xNFPs (or xxxPs in general) would be much less susceptible to external criticism in comparison to IxxJs (or xxxJs in general).



    How would an ego comprised mostly of Fi or Ti (like in IxxPs) be offended thru external feedback? When their Ti or Fi judgments or values ridiculed by others? They would just be angered if they are ridiculed but would really be offended if (they themselved are convinced) they turned out to be undeniably wrong I guess.[/quote]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    This guy crystallises and synthesises a process that goes on in my head instinctively, and has helped me untangle some knots in the areas where I'm unable to fully execute it. Iow, he is able to put into words what I have failed repeatedly to explain sufficiently when asked about it.

    And (for the T-users ) he even put together a 'mathematical' formula, called the 'Equation of Emotion'. The idea is to gain control over your own emotions by controlling your mind, using the formula. Occasionally, his way of going about it bugs me - when he uses too many buzz words, for instance- but in general his system basically worked to crystallise and synthesise my own process for me the way MBTI did in validating my perceptions of how people differed back in the day, so I figured I'd share.

    This particular podcast is focused on the 'Ego', but he does go into the equation as well, to give you a little sample of the core idea.

    http://iamspirituality.com/i-am-spir...-0005-the-ego/

    For those interested, he has a series of podcasts on this subjects as well as a book.
    When it comes to religion and spirituality, the usual way that spiritual priests or gurus deal with the ego and the emotions is to say: "God (or one-ness or Buddha or whatever) is out there in the world around you, but you can't sense it because your ego is in the way. So shrink your ego down as far as possible (or get rid of it entirely) so that you can sense God in the world around you." That's pretty much the approach that the podcast seems to be taking, based on what's presented.

    It's a one-size-fits-all solution to your problems: Ego is bad because it gets in the way of your connection with God (or one-ness or Buddha or whatever).

    Traditional scientific (non-spiritual) psychology, on the other hand, says that there's no external God (or one-ness or Buddha or whatever) to seek. Traditional psychology says that your ego is neither good nor bad; it is simply a component of your mental makeup (along with the id, superego, etc.) much as your height is a component of your physical makeup (along with your hair color, shoe size, etc.). And when trouble arises, it's because the size of your ego is out of whack with your other capabilities and capacities: Your ego is either too large or too small, to the point where it's screwing up your ability to cope with the world around you.

    For example, sometimes a person's ego is too large for their physical or mental capacity: Their ego tells them they deserve wealth and fame and power, but in terms of physical and mental development they're just a teenager living at home with their parents and have no actual ability to achieve those things. So they mope around and get depressed and feel that life is unfair and that they are deprived. Or they go on a crime spree and simply rob people for the things they think they deserve.

    Another example: Sometimes a person's ego is too small for their physical or mental capacity: Someone who has been abused all their lives will be afraid to try anything new; novelty and stretching oneself will be associated by them with failure and punishment. So they remain un-actualized and in a childlike and helpless state, even though in terms of physical and mental development they are adults. If they end up under the care of a psychologist, the psychologist will try to increase the size of the patient's ego by helping them to try new things and giving them lots of positive feedback. And so on.

    So basically, here's the summary:

    Spirituality and religion usually tend toward one-size-fits-all solutions: Shink your ego. Marry before you have sex. Don't be a homosexual. Such solutions are probably appropriate (or at least not actively harmful) for the majority of the population on any given day, but there's always a minority for whom such simplistic prescriptions are going to be inappropriate.

    Psychology, on the other hand, takes a more nuanced approach: Is your ego in balance with your other physical and mental capacities? In fact, the majority of people probably have too-large egos and can benefit from some ego-shrinkage; in that sense, they could probably be helped equally by religion or psychology. But there will inevitably be some people who are hampered in life by an ego that is already too small, or that is over-developed in some respects and under-developed in others. Religion and spirituality with their simplistic, one-dimensional formulas for ego-shrinkage will only screw up such people even further. Such people need a more nuanced solution that is tailored to their particular situation; they probably need psychology rather than spirituality.

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