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    3.45. I regularly score in the middle like this.
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    2.6

    51 on covert narcissism
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    3.25
    ambivert leading more toward introversion (makes sense)
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    Ambiverted narcissist here, 3.1 and 100

    I'm actually a little proud of my narcissism score (for obvious reasons I guess)
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    Extroverts rule introverts drool. - This article

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    This is a fantastic article that truly defines what introversion and extroversion are, correctly, free of bias.
    Before I read the article, I will take the time to laugh at the idea of a true, correct definition of a concept.

    Reading now...

    While introversion has its roots in the idea of introspection, today introversion is simply defined as the opposite of extraversion. Extraversion is one of the "Big Five" dimensions of personality, the other four being neuroticism, agreeableness, conscientiousness, and openness to experience. Whereas Jung based his definitions of extraversion and introversion on his own theory, experience, and intuition, modern psychology identifies personality dimensions empirically, based on what patterns of behavior tend to go together within individuals.
    In other words, you can be a Jungian introvert while being an extravert in Mr. Kaufman's eyes.

    As for the I/E test scores:

    Overall: 2.2
    Engagement: 1.3
    Assertiveness: 3.1

    MCNS score: 63

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruca View Post
    Extroverts rule introverts drool. - This article
    This did cross my mind a little actually. Though, I do not believe it was intended at all, nor was it framed that way. It more seemed like the definition was refined in such a way that included stereotypically desirable traits for extroverts and undesirable for introverts. It doesn't mean that one is better than the other though. While the stereotype persists, there has been a lot of good pushback for introverts in the past decade or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Before I read the article, I will take the time to laugh at the idea of a true, correct definition of a concept.

    Reading now...

    In other words, you can be a Jungian introvert while being an extravert in Mr. Kaufman's eyes.

    As for the I/E test scores:

    Overall: 2.2
    Engagement: 1.3
    Assertiveness: 3.1

    MCNS score: 63
    Ok, well lets say a much more accurate refined definition then. And yes I agree, while there will be overlap between the two, it can be independent. I've felt this way about the I/E axis in particular for a few years now after seeing the differences between how each is assessed.
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    I scored a 2.9. I think it's accurate; I can get extroverted in spurts but not enough to really qualify for ambiversion.

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    This is surprising.....

    3.3 on E/I, ambivert

    89 on covert narcisissm

    So maybe I'm really just a narcissist deep down and not really a true introvert, in spite of scoring high on introvert on most MBTI tests.
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    What's wrong with the popular definitions? That's just evolution of language, it doesn't make them incorrect.

    People on the internet are so obsessed about narcissism, aren't they, what's so interesting about that particular mental illness rather than others?

    To answer my own question, I suppose it's because the symptoms (or behavioral manifestations) equate to socially hated traits in a person such as arrogance and selfishness, which is so because humans are social creatures that support each other to survive, rather than being solitary predators.

    Because of the nature of the symptoms it makes for a good insult, and also makes people sensitive to the idea of being one. It's an insult because it's hard to sympathize with someone of that nature, unlike other personality disorders; calling someone avoidant, borderline or schizotypal isn't thrown at someone hatefully in the same way, is it?

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