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    I like to stare at the crazy things I see in wood contours and nature or in 3d things. I'm taking a drawing class soon and I hope I learn how to communicate my ideas, visually. I used to be real poetic but not so much poetry for poetry's sake. It's just when I get in that visual, creative state of mind, my brain likes to have a running dialogue, like stream of conscious thinking. I don't know if this is creative but I like to problem solve "mechanically". Like one time, I used floss to lock a door from the outside so when I left my passed out friend's apartment, it would remain locked. It's always fun to improvise in a tight situation.

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    Are you creative, and in what ways are you creative?

    Depends what you mean by creative. I'm occasionally creative when painting and drawing, but this tends to be nonverbal/unconcious.

    I'm also somewhat creative with problem solving and finding new ways to connect different concepts/facts or coming up with new systems. This is most obvious at work, but I do it a bit outside work too.


    How do you think creativity works in the mind?


    No idea, to be honest.

    Are there ways to increase creativity?

    Expose yourself to lots of information and concepts and spend time thinking about how these can be connected. In terms of art, practice without imposing 'shoulds' on to the process. Exposure to different fields of art also helps with this as well - new ideas can come from combining different styles and ideas.

    Is creativity correlated to intelligence and/or mental illness and depression?

    In terms of mental illness, I guess it's possible that depression or whatever can help fuel creativity as a means of emotional expression.

    In terms of creativity with ideas and concepts, mental illness is more of a hindrance than a help. My mind functions much better when I'm not anxious or depressed. Intelligence probably helps with the quality of the creativity, but I have trouble teasing apart the difference between intuition and intelligence, so... I'm not sure.
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    Are you creative, and in what ways are you creative? I have been told by others that I am very creative in resolving problems. I don't see it as being creative, but taking practical steps to resolve an immediate problem with expediency. I say it's not creative because most likely I have suggested the same resolution before, but changed it to meet the immediate needs. I think that the Promoter/Executor (ESTP) description on bestfittype.com says it best, “I can take a prior experience and lay it right on top of what I’m doing today and carry it all forward, and it’s a snap.” This is an indication that my creativity comes from usage of my auxiliary function (Se).

    How do you think creativity works in the mind? Since we all use one introverted and one extraverted function better than others, I think this depends on what introverted function you prefer. My Ti , as Lenore Thompson puts it is not geared toward free association creativity. I create with my Se and my Ti organizes it. In fact I think the only function that is capable of internally generating creativity is the Ni. Again contrary to popular belief we all use it in some form.

    Are there ways to increase creativity? There are ample books on the subject. Years ago I read Shakti Gawain’s, “Creative Visualization” and other books. Generally people who have a clear pipe line to their intuition will be more inclined to trust their creativity because it is connected to our intuition. This again goes back to how developed your Ni is in my opinion.

    Is creativity correlated to intelligence and/or mental illness and depression?[/QUOTE] I think creativity correlates with intuition, internal (Ni) external (Ne). It has nothing to do with intelligence.

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    Are you creative, and in what ways are you creative?
    I've got a minor in drama, and I've done quite a bit of acting and directing. Also I've been the DM in D&D many times and I've created several of my own worlds. Additionally, I think I have some latent musical talent that I've never developed. I change the words to songs a lot, and sometimes I make up songs on my own, but I don't have the training to play them on an instrument. Those are some of the more obvious ways that I demonstrate creativity.

    How do you think creativity works in the mind?
    I think raw creativity comes from the perceiving functions: Ne, Se, Ni, Si. Overall I think Ne and Se have a slight advantage toward creativity since they have an easier time with lateral thinking, but these two functions by no means have a monopoly.

    Inspiration also plays a vital role in creativity. People need to have a desire to express their creativity. Individuals who have a developed Fi function have an advantage in this area, since they can draw inspiration from their desire for self expression. Of course any type can be creative, but I believe you will find the various xxFP types to be overrepresented in artistic communities.

    Are there ways to increase creativity?
    Yes. I'd say the most efficient way is to play Dungeons and Dragons or other role playing games. This game focuses on building creativity the way weightlifting focuses on building strength. There are lots of ways to build strength, but weightlifting is the most efficient way. The same holds for D&D and creativity. Also the more creative the other players are, the more creative you will become too. It's basically a group excersise in building creativity, so the creativity of the other players directly helps you build yours.

    Other than that I'd say study a wide variety of creative works, experience a wide variety of experiences, and meet a wide variety of people. Associating with creative people will make you more creative. Most importantly live life and find things that are important to you. These provide the inspiration for your creativity.

    Is creativity correlated to intelligence and/or mental illness and depression?
    I would say creativity is a component of intelligence, although it depends on how you define intelligence. A person with low creativity isn't excercising a part of their brain, so that is why I'd say it is a part of intelligence. Also creativity can make you better in a wide variety of tasks. In grad school I could sometimes solve problems that the other students couldn't, because I would think of novel approaches to solving the problem. That is just one example of how creativity aids performance.

    I think depression aids creativity in that it can provide a source of inspiration that makes the person want a creative outlet. Their are many potential sources of inspiration, and depression is one of them. People with mental illness by their nature have a different perspective than the norm. This can appear as creativity, but much of what we see from them is what the world looks like from their perspective.
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    Are you creative, and in what ways are you creative?

    I am creative. I like to draw and sometimes I work with paint or chalk. I have done many different crafts and like to come up with my own patterns or modify existing patterns. I have done some alterted and embellished clothing.

    I like to experiment in the kitchen, modifying recepies or coming up with entirely new ones.

    I do a kind of free form poetry. I don't know if it can properly be called poetry, it is a cross between prose and poetry.

    I DM D&D games. I don't usually create my own modules, but I often modify the existing ones.

    I day dream quite a bit. I come up with many, many stories in my head.
    How do you think creativity works in the mind?

    I also do creative problem solving.

    How do you think creativity works in the mind?

    In MBTI terms I think it is mostly N. It is the ability of the mind to see things in new ways, to see variations on things, to combine things that are not usually combined.

    It is the tendancy to think "what if." It is the tendancy to think "how else could this be done." It is thinking about possibilities.

    But much of the time, it just comes by itself. You don't try to make it happen, it just happens on its own. You are sitting with a pen and paper and suddenly you have something completely new.

    I am not sure if you are familiar with the concept of neurodiversity, but I think that is a big factor. Neurodiversity, in its simplest terms, mean that some of us were born with a brain that processesing things significantly different from most people.


    Are there ways to increase creativity?

    Day dreaming and make believe games, including D&D and other role playing games. Art, crafts, creative writing, peotry, music - assuming you make original things and don't just follow some one else's pattern.

    I also think it helps to be open to new experiences artistically, musically, etc. For example listening to different types of music, looking at many different styles of art, etc.


    Is creativity correlated to intelligence and/or mental illness and depression?
    I think there are different types of intelligence, for example some people excell at history, but are bad at math. I think creativity is another type of intelligence.

    I have seen studies that show that manic depression and to a lesser extent depression are more common with artists, poets and musicians that the general public. This does not mean all creative types have these issues.

    I have several theories on this.

    1) Creative people tend to be eccentric. They tend to think differently than others and often don't fit in with the croud and so feel some sense of alienation. Sometimes they are made fun of for their eccentric behavior and/or pressured to "act normal" i.e. not be themselves. These things can cause depression. They can also cause stress which makes you more at risk for mental problems.

    2) This is the neorodiversity theory. The highly creative person has a non-standard brain and this non-standard brain makes the person more vulnerable to some mental illnesses.

    3) At the heart of creativity is the willingness to try new things and the ability to ignore those voices, both internally and externally, that say things like "too weird, too silly, not the way things are done," etc. This ability to ignore the voices may also mean that the voices are also ignored when they warn us that certain actions or ways of thinking are harmful or unacceptable. Some of this behavior or thinking could cross the lines into mental illness.

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    Are you creative, and in what ways are you creative?

    I am creative. I like to draw and sometimes I work with paint or chalk. I have done many different crafts and like to come up with my own patterns or modify existing patterns. I have done some alterted and embellished clothing.

    I like to experiment in the kitchen, modifying recepies or coming up with entirely new ones.

    I do a kind of free form poetry. I don't know if it can properly be called poetry, it is a cross between prose and poetry.

    I DM D&D games. I don't usually create my own modules, but I often modify the existing ones.

    I day dream quite a bit. I come up with many, many stories in my head.
    How do you think creativity works in the mind?

    I also do creative problem solving.

    How do you think creativity works in the mind?

    In MBTI terms I think it is mostly N. It is the ability of the mind to see things in new ways, to see variations on things, to combine things that are not usually combined.

    It is the tendancy to think "what if." It is the tendancy to think "how else could this be done." It is thinking about possibilities.

    But much of the time, it just comes by itself. You don't try to make it happen, it just happens on its own. You are sitting with a pen and paper and suddenly you have something completely new.

    I am not sure if you are familiar with the concept of neurodiversity, but I think that is a big factor. Neurodiversity, in its simplest terms, mean that some of us were born with a brain that processesing things significantly different from most people.


    Are there ways to increase creativity?

    Day dreaming and make believe games, including D&D and other role playing games. Art, crafts, creative writing, peotry, music - assuming you make original things and don't just follow some one else's pattern.

    I also think it helps to be open to new experiences artistically, musically, etc. For example listening to different types of music, looking at many different styles of art, etc.


    Is creativity correlated to intelligence and/or mental illness and depression?
    I think there are different types of intelligence, for example some people excell at history, but are bad at math. I think creativity is another type of intelligence.

    I have seen studies that show that manic depression and to a lesser extent depression are more common with artists, poets and musicians that the general public. This does not mean all creative types have these issues.

    I have several theories on this.

    1) Creative people tend to be eccentric. They tend to think differently than others and often don't fit in with the croud and so feel some sense of alienation. Sometimes they are made fun of for their eccentric behavior and/or pressured to "act normal" i.e. not be themselves. These things can cause depression. They can also cause stress which makes you more at risk for mental problems.

    2) This is the neorodiversity theory. The highly creative person has a non-standard brain and this non-standard brain makes the person more vulnerable to some mental illnesses.

    3) At the heart of creativity is the willingness to try new things and the ability to ignore those voices, both internally and externally, that say things like "too weird, too silly, not the way things are done," etc. This ability to ignore the voices may also mean that the voices are also ignored when they warn us that certain actions or ways of thinking are harmful or unacceptable. Some of this behavior or thinking could cross the lines into mental illness.

    Ilah

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    Are you creative, and in what ways are you creative?
    I'm pretty creative, although I don't have the patience for follow-through. I love the visual arts- anything from graphic design to traditional illustration (my personal favorites- children's book illustration, I'd love to learn more about it), animation, watercolor to interior/fashion. I'm also creative in my relationships in terms of spontaneity.

    How do you think creativity works in the mind?
    It's the ability to think/imagine things/concepts/ideas that are not physically there. Beyond our 5 senses, creativity allows us to see things outside the box, to imagine all possibilities/outcomes.

    Are there ways to increase creativity?
    IDK. I think for me, it comes with experience.. I guess my advice would be: go out/enjoy the simplest things in life/really take in the experience. Notice the little idiosyncratic things that can easily be looked past. Absorb the essence of life. Be open to new ideas, different cultures, unfamiliar situations, just explore.. Humor helps. It's good to find humor in things in life.

    Is creativity correlated to intelligence and/or mental illness and depression? The human mind is too complex to be summed down to a black/white statement. I think creativity, for me, correlates with a sense of innocence, in which it allows me to bring out the kid in me even though life jades me at times. It's a stress release. If anything, being creative helps me to think independently, which really defines ME. It just makes me feel more unique/less cookie-cutterish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    The human mind is too complex to be summed down to a black/white statement.
    Pfft you are WRONG.

    But seriously, it's like Liz Phair says [said, that is, when she was talented in 1993]. When you come up with something good, it's like a deity spit on you.

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    to me creativity is just the result of dicontent regarding a situation or a state of minde...

    some people associates creativity with art while art i find this unfaire, u can be creative in business, in life style in any thing, all u need is the feeling that situation you are does not content u.

    you get bored, u find a way to entertain ur self.. that s creativity!!!

    you get stuck with a monster 3 time ur size with sticky skin and a mouth flowing of greenish saliva in a dark room standing between you and the door you drag his attention some how some where and run out side that s creativity too!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilah View Post
    1) Creative people tend to be eccentric. They tend to think differently than others and often don't fit in with the croud and so feel some sense of alienation. Sometimes they are made fun of for their eccentric behavior and/or pressured to "act normal" i.e. not be themselves. These things can cause depression. They can also cause stress which makes you more at risk for mental problems.

    2) This is the neorodiversity theory. The highly creative person has a non-standard brain and this non-standard brain makes the person more vulnerable to some mental illnesses.

    3) At the heart of creativity is the willingness to try new things and the ability to ignore those voices, both internally and externally, that say things like "too weird, too silly, not the way things are done," etc. This ability to ignore the voices may also mean that the voices are also ignored when they warn us that certain actions or ways of thinking are harmful or unacceptable. Some of this behavior or thinking could cross the lines into mental illness.

    Ilah
    I would agree with each of these points. They each apply to me. Never heard of neorodiversity, but it does make sense. I used to be tormented by other people's teasing of me. I no longer have that problem. I have an incredible tolerance for withstanding personal attacks; I can brush them off like it's nothing. I still have a threshold--it's just very, very high. I see most other people as sheep. They think and act like the crowd, they are the crowd.

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