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    Rationalisation is probably the most common defence mechanism here.

    Rationalization is a psychological defense mechanism that involves explaining an unacceptable behavior or feeling in a rational or logical manner, avoiding the true reasons for the behavior.

    Rationalization not only prevents anxiety, it may also protect self-esteem and self-concept.

    And rationalization is validated here by shared rationalizations.

    So rationalization prevents anxiety and is the perfect disguise for our true feelings and actions.

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    Rationalization is distinct from reason.

    Reason and evidence are ways at arriving at physical facts, while rationalization is a way of hiding the fact of our anxiety, and rationalization is a way of hiding unacceptable thoughts, feelings and actions.

    Rationalization is pernicious because it rides on the back of reason, while, at the same time, betraying reason.

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    How does one tell when another is reasoning rather than rationalizing, or vice-versa?

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    Reasoning and rationalizing are one and the same - this is why science is theory, and never claims to be anything but.

    Though of course it is still an excellent topic, and I'm glad you've started it. As you can tell, I prefer irrationality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruca View Post
    How does one tell when another is reasoning rather than rationalizing, or vice-versa?
    Rationalizing is a psychological defence mechanism. So rationalizing is defending against something in the person. It is usually anxiety.

    Those who can't tell the difference between reasoning and rationalizing are without psychological insight.

    This is a site devoted to psychology yet so many routinely rationalize here. I would have thought this is a wonderful place to gain psychological insight, but for most psychological insight remains foreign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by applebite View Post
    Reasoning and rationalizing are one and the same
    We perceive by making distinctions. And the more distinctions, the more we see. And the more impoverished our distinctions, the less we see. So failing to see the distinction between rationalizing and reasoning, leaves us impoverished and blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Rationalizing is a psychological defence mechanism. So rationalizing is defending against something in the person. It is usually anxiety.

    Those who can't tell the difference between reasoning and rationalizing are without psychological insight.

    This is a site devoted to psychology yet so many routinely rationalize here. I would have thought this is a wonderful place to gain psychological insight, but for most psychological insight remains foreign.
    Okay then, here I go.

    Rationalization is faulty reasoning motivated by a tendency to alleviate internal anxieties.

    Sometimes, mole feels that he might be wrong, while the people he disagrees with might be in the right.

    This makes mole anxious.

    Therefore, he rationalizes that they must be rationalizing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    And rationalization is validated here by shared rationalizations.
    Are you talking about the 8 function theories?
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Quote Originally Posted by applebite View Post
    Reasoning and rationalizing are one and the same - this is why science is theory, and never claims to be anything but.
    no

    Rationalization (making excuses) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and yes there are other uses for the word, but none of them is same as reasoning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruca View Post
    Okay then, here I go.

    Rationalization is faulty reasoning motivated by a tendency to alleviate internal anxieties.

    Sometimes, mole feels that he might be wrong, while the people he disagrees with might be in the right.

    This makes mole anxious.

    Therefore, he rationalizes that they must be rationalizing!
    This is merely clever. And certainly it seems to me to be a psychological defence mechanism. But what feelings and thoughts is this cleverness defending against?

    This is a site devoted to psychology, so surely it is more appropriate to explore our psyche than being merely clever.

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