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    I guess the Big Five is given more credence because it provides simple, observable traits without ambiguity. So it's more useful for quantifying groups of people to a more objective standard. The other three are more prone to ambiguity and concepts such as the functions are left wide open for subjective interpretation.
    These differences make it generally so that MBTI, Enneagram and Socionics are more helpful for individuals and the Big Five is more helpful for the psychologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    I guess the Big Five is given more credence because it provides simple, observable traits without ambiguity. So it's more useful for quantifying groups of people to a more objective standard. The other three are more prone to ambiguity and concepts such as the functions are left wide open for subjective interpretation.
    These differences make it generally so that MBTI, Enneagram and Socionics are more helpful for individuals and the Big Five is more helpful for the psychologists.
    Have you heard my two guys on a stage, with a lamppost, and a missing quarter analogy?

    The predominance of the Big 5 fits it perfectly.

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    At the end of the day it is all about motivation. You are at the point you want to know people cause you know none. I am past it.

    I am deeply and eternally bored *cheers*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Have you heard my two guys on a stage, with a lamppost, and a missing quarter analogy?

    The predominance of the Big 5 fits it perfectly.
    No, what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    There is no tangible external physical evidence that we can get from the mind thus far
    Well, that's why these theories are so prevalent right? But even with the evidence there'll need to be a framework, like in physics for instance. Typology won't have anything to do with that of course.

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    More importantly...

    Welcome back, Infinite Bubble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    No, what is it?
    Luckily I was able to find it on Google (my default forum search utility):

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    People will find this heinous, but science schmience.

    The problem with the scientific method is that it only cares about things that it can empirically test for (which is by no means everything).

    That's why trait theory gets played up so much in academia -- because it can be tested for empirically.

    But that doesn't mean type isn't actually the better way of looking at things, nor just as true, if not truer.

    It just means that it can't be easily empirically tested for, and, as such, the scientific method doesn't have much it can say about it.

    This then causes it to fall out of favor amongst the academic establishment, who requires such things to be empirically tested.

    It's like the story of the two men on a dark stage, with a lamppost in the middle of it.

    One of them is looking at the ground, seemingly searching for something, only in the area that the light from the lamppost encompasses.

    The other man asks the man who is looking for something, "What are you doing?"

    The man who is looking says, "I'm looking for my quarter."

    The other man says, "Well, did you drop it by the lamppost?"

    The man who is looking says, "No. I dropped it over there. [points off stage] But this is the only place where I can see anything."

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    More importantly...

    Welcome back, Infinite Bubble.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    At the end of the day it is all about motivation. You are at the point you want to know people cause you know none. I am past it.

    I am deeply and eternally bored *cheers*
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    The miles that they run,
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    Gives us grey hairs,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Luckily I was able to find it on Google (my default forum search utility):
    I like that, it describes it very well. I agree, empiricism definitely has its limitations to the expense of theories that don't fit its little box. But empiricism is the best method we have right now for collecting substantially objective data, somewhat free from our subjective minds, and that's what science is about isn't it. Unfortunately it leads to too hasty a dismissal of anything that can't be verified in this manner.

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