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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Yes, I think so too.

    Then too that caveman beard must weight a lot all by itself!
    You know what's worrying? My father has a beard (not quite as impressive as this one.. but still..) I look scarily like him with this photoshop avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I agree with this. I don't find gender based humor funny at all, and not even because I think it's 'harmful' or ideological. It just plain isn't funny.
    I've written some comedy intended for TV or film, and I've read a lot of scripts. The amount of "Man, my wife sure does love to shop!" and "My husband is such an oaf; he always leaves the toilet seat up!" crap is staggering. It reminds of that Simpsons episode in which Marge laments the cancellation of the TV show Ethnic Mismatch Comedy #644. That is what a lot of writers know.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    What is the beneficial purpose of cataloging these definitions of supposedly masculine and feminine behavior? What positive impact does it have on society?
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    Does it have to have a positive impact on society?

    What is the beneficial purpose of cataloging anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Does it have to have a positive impact on society?
    If it doesn't, why hang onto it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    What is the beneficial purpose of cataloging anything?
    Ermmm, reference serves a lot of purposes, and that's why I figure cataloging is sometimes useful.

    My precise use of words in that case doesn't really matter, anyway. The more general point is: What good are these generalized definitions of male and female behavior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    When talking about "stereotypical" masculine or feminine traits: It is like the average man likely 60 percent masculine, 40 percent female. Average woman 60 percent female traits, 40 percent masculine. And then varations with individuals in all directions.
    This sort of thing is absolutely maddening!

    Though there may be a difference, the difference is so goddamned negligible when applying to individuals that it's absolutely useless, and yet PEOPLE INSIST ON STICKING TO IT ANYWAY! JUST BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TO BE TECHNICIALLY CORRECT YOU HAVE TO CONCEDE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

    *mouthfoam*

    *falls over backwards, faints*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    This sort of thing is absolutely maddening!

    Though there may be a difference, the difference is so goddamned negligible when applying to individuals that it's absolutely useless, and yet PEOPLE INSIST ON STICKING TO IT ANYWAY! JUST BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TO BE TECHNICIALLY CORRECT YOU HAVE TO CONCEDE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

    *mouthfoam*

    *falls over backwards, faints*
    Easy there, Happy(I think that should be your nickname ), we must handle this calmly now.

    This does address what I was getting at, though. If we are all going to give the utlimate priority to individual qualities(and we damn well should) then what use is there to these perscribed generalizations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    This sort of thing is absolutely maddening!

    Though there may be a difference, the difference is so goddamned negligible when applying to individuals that it's absolutely useless, and yet PEOPLE INSIST ON STICKING TO IT ANYWAY! JUST BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TO BE TECHNICIALLY CORRECT YOU HAVE TO CONCEDE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

    *mouthfoam*

    *falls over backwards, faints*

    Are some people here hanging around a lot of people named "Pat" and "Chris"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Easy there, Happy(I think that should be your nickname ),
    You would certainly not be the first to think that. Most people I know seem to have a taste for irony.

    we must handle this calmly now.

    This does address what I was getting at, though. If we are all going to give the utlimate priority to individual qualities(and we damn well should) then what use is there to these perscribed generalizations?
    I think what people should do with them is learn something about statistics. When the average person hears "X tends to Y," they will think "X will always Y" despite not knowing the probability that X will Y, or anything about the sample used to draw the conclusion that "X tends to Y." They might not even be applying it to a correct context, depending on how they heard "X tends to Y."

    Also, people don't understand conditional statements and their reverse. I really just think the whole world just needs a good lesson in mathematics, to at least learn where assumptions and statistics properly apply.
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