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    I'm a little tipsy right now but I just want to say to the women that you shoudl not feel bad about having emotional highs and lows. YOu shoul love yoruselves and men love you too. You are beautiful women. Cereal.

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    Here's what gets me about the PMS thing. It's just as anti-feminist to deny women's experiences as imaginary as it is to dismiss their ideas as being PMS-influenced.
    The one who buggers a fire burns his penis
    -anonymous graffiti in the basilica at Pompeii

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Here's what gets me about the PMS thing. It's just as anti-feminist to deny women's experiences as imaginary as it is to dismiss their ideas as being PMS-influenced.
    tha'ts deal Ivy. I ddidnt understand it but it's deep anyway. What is your type?

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    I don't know but I love cereal!
    The one who buggers a fire burns his penis
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    There are physiological differences between the genders, and clearly there are, in general, also psychological differences. The fact that most men are T types and most women are F types means that it would be impossible for everyone to pair up with someone of his or her own type in a relationship, but those of us who are aware of this fact have the advantage in finding type compatibility if rejecting diversity in our relationships in order to increase the probability of harmonious interaction is our goal.

    I do feel that type has more to do with human difference than biology, and whether or not there is a correlation between the two is irrelevant because any broad generalization is unfair to the individuals who must live their lives as the exceptions, victims to the false expectations of others. An individual ESTP woman may be more likely to be promiscuous than an individual INFP male, regardless of gender stereotypes or cultural expectations that might lead one to suspect any random male of being less sexually picky than any random female. I also know that my ESTJ grandmother fits into the masculine stereotype more easily than my ISFP friend, who is a male.

    Hormones and brain development may influence type to some extent, but whether or not this is found to be the case, it is the individual will that determines sexual choices within that contextual framework. If we wish to characterize inward moving vs. outward moving qualities, it may be healthier to view them as "yin and yang" instead of "feminine and masculine," as this seems to be more accurate and inclusive. As this applies to typology ESTJ would be at the ultimate yang end of the spectrum while INFP would be at the ultimate yin end, with individual variation depending on the intensity of a specific preference and how the will may shift along that spectrum in a situationally dependent manner.

    As for the comment about women seeking dominant males, I disagree that this is always the case. The dynamics of the sexual relationship need not bleed over into other, non-sexual, areas of the relationship. I like soft-spoken, gentle poetic types who would be willing to give their own lives before being so harsh as to even squish a bug. In the bedroom, my preference is for someone who has emotional power over me, and who is capable of making me feel an intense attraction for him at will. In order for me to be comfortable enough to feel this way, I must trust my partner to be completely harmless. He must also see the body as a mere tool of expression that is used to communicate his desire for my spiritual qualities rather than as a decorative object. Passionate expression may appear, outwardly, to resemble dominance, but the psychological aspects are entirely different.

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