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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    also, no pissing outdoors
    When I was an undergrad I had phase that I went through that, when I was drunk I refuse to use a toilet if I did not know the people who lived there. Instead, I'd go outside and piss in a bush. All of my friends thought I was weird for doing so (valid) and were way too amused by it. But mostly, they were grossed out. "How can you pee outside?!". I guess cause as a child if I had to pee while I was in the car, my dad would pull over on the road and tell me to go in the woods. I think nothing of that, and when I tried to do that with a few friends 2 summers ago, they flat out refused to stop the car and let me doing it cause it's "wrong", and commence argument about the ethics of peeing, ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    OMG, I experience this so often.
    Facts are facts, not opinions.
    It's probably because people react defensively to facts and intellectual conversations where they are guilty of what is being discussed, even though it isn't directly about them.

    Or a knee-jerk reaction to suddenly being presented with a perspective or body of information that they had not considered before, which brings into question their current life style and existence.
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    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
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    Having to "put on a smile" or be happy go lucky at a retail/sales type job. Most of the time I just act naturally, how I'm feeling.
    It's weird to feel awful one day and having to be chipper to customers like I owe them some gratitude or something. And then when I'm done acting it's exhausting to pretend to be a happy extrovert when i'm not one. It's jarring on the emotions to go back and forth, it's like momentary supression of my real feelings.
    And it's so American to act like that at a job. In other countries people are paid more at such jobs that invest a persons emotions on a daily basis.
    And it's especially difficult when you get a customer who is entitled and thinks you are their door mat, like "you're not human I'll just verbally and emotionally attack you because I'm having a bad day and you work for me, the customer" all because they can't find the missing mate to a shoe or something petty.
    Which brings me to another point. The saying "the customer is always right." I can't remember the rich guy's name who came up with that, but that's along the same lines of what I just stated.
    Of course no one wants to go to a store full of curmugeony jerks, but there aren't that many curmudgeony people working at department stores haha.
    Also I hate "god bless you." People used to say that after a person sneezed because they thought their soul was escaping and that they would die, some pagan non sense. Anyway I think that one could have been let go long ago. I don't think anyone ever died after sneezing. So you'd think that people would stop saying that since no one was dying after a sneeze or two.
    Haha
    Now, I think I know what you tried to say to me
    And how you suffered for your sanity
    And how you tried to set them free
    They would not listen, they're not listening still
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    When I was an undergrad I had phase that I went through that, when I was drunk I refuse to use a toilet if I did not know the people who lived there. Instead, I'd go outside and piss in a bush. All of my friends thought I was weird for doing so (valid) and were way too amused by it. But mostly, they were grossed out. "How can you pee outside?!". I guess cause as a child if I had to pee while I was in the car, my dad would pull over on the road and tell me to go in the woods. I think nothing of that, and when I tried to do that with a few friends 2 summers ago, they flat out refused to stop the car and let me doing it cause it's "wrong", and commence argument about the ethics of peeing, ha!
    Brothers in piss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spruce Bringsteen View Post
    Having to "put on a smile" or be happy go lucky at a retail/sales type job. Most of the time I just act naturally, how I'm feeling.
    It's weird to feel awful one day and having to be chipper to customers like I owe them some gratitude or something. And then when I'm done acting it's exhausting to pretend to be a happy extrovert when i'm not one. It's jarring on the emotions to go back and forth, it's like momentary supression of my real feelings.
    And it's so American to act like that at a job. In other countries people are paid more at such jobs that invest a persons emotions on a daily basis.
    And it's especially difficult when you get a customer who is entitled and thinks you are their door mat, like "you're not human I'll just verbally and emotionally attack you because I'm having a bad day and you work for me, the customer" all because they can't find the missing mate to a shoe or something petty.
    Which brings me to another point. The saying "the customer is always right." I can't remember the rich guy's name who came up with that, but that's along the same lines of what I just stated.
    Of course no one wants to go to a store full of curmugeony jerks, but there aren't that many curmudgeony people working at department stores haha.
    Also I hate "god bless you." People used to say that after a person sneezed because they thought their soul was escaping and that they would die, some pagan non sense. Anyway I think that one could have been let go long ago. I don't think anyone ever died after sneezing. So you'd think that people would stop saying that since no one was dying after a sneeze or two.
    Haha
    I feel your pain. I got out of customer service because I realized that sometimes I just wanna stare at a wall and curse anything that interrupts me. Customers are not conducent to that end.

    (Though I'm starting to realize there is little escaping trifling existences )

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    I feel your pain. I got out of customer service because I realized that sometimes I just wanna stare at a wall and curse anything that interrupts me. Customers are not conducent to that end.

    (Though I'm starting to realize there is little escaping trifling existences )
    When I first started working, exactly the same feeling.

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    In contemporary Western society? hmm...I'd say:

    - Men not hitting women (in self-defence, or well generally, i don't see why "weakness" makes a difference here)
    - The PC movement (much of which is based on shit not applicable to or drawn from reality)
    - This "treat me human" bullshit, often said by socially needy people who need constant affirmation or baseless associations with others
    - Modern medicine pushing meditation onto the masses, most likely as some kind of plot to change society

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
    Who would want to catch flies? Eww.

    1 Not calling people out on stupid rhetorics
    2 Political Correctness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindsabre View Post
    Dress codes.
    Which aren't really arbitrary...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLazarus View Post
    1.Pleasantries
    2.Pretending you like people you hate
    3.Hugging strangers/acquaintances(I hate it when someone I do not approve of/know well hugs me.)
    4.Smiling at people I do not know.
    5.Being nice to people I do not love/like
    To soothe social contact.

    If somebody didn't like you, would you like them being rude or aggressive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    There are a lot of societal rules that don't make sense in this day and age, like saying 'bless you' when somebody sneezes, removing your hat indoors, opening doors for people. There are a lot of etiquette rules that most people don't follow, but do exist, like how you fold and place your dinner napkin, ways of using utensils and others. You know, in a way I like arbitrary rules as long as they're harmless. Maybe it's because they are gestures, more ways of expressing something. Maybe just like a structure, even if I don't always feel compelled to attempt to occupy it.
    So any tradition is bad because it's unPC or "limits individuality"?

    meh, to me lots of things are done not for rational purposes, but for effect or sentiment. Humans aren't strictly rational.

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