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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    We live in a very reflexive, potsmodern world, where everything is meta, or a parody or a deconstruction of conventions. There is all kinds of writing out there that basically just pick random things we all tend to accept as true, and attempt to come to a counterintuive conclusion about (Malcolm Gladwell, Chuck Klosterman, Freakanomics, Cracked.com). Even a lot of TV shows (especially cartoons) satirize the conventions of its medium (Simpsons, Family Guy, Community, etc). Traditions and conventions aren't very hip lately, we're a cynical, smart-alecky generation where everything is constantly changing, phones are obsolete by the end of the year, etc.

    We'll probably see a comeback of sincerity and tradition soon though, The pendulum is bound to swing the other way.

    I personally think traditions are okay, as long as you don't use them to justify thoughtless or inhumane behaviour. It's liek when those big College Sport hazing stories breaks and you hear a bunch of the players protest: but it's a tradition! We've always suffocated weasels by shoving them up freshmen's anuses, we can't stop now I think that attitude is harmful.
    I hate post modernism. I'd hate to be forced to choose between it and traditionalism.

    I'd like to see some sincerity divorced of tradition, thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    The pendulum will swing back the other way, unmooring your self from traditional societal structures is fun until you want to do things like grow up and start a family.
    It seems to me I've encountered many an old immature person steeped in tradition.

    Nobody needs a tradition to have a family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    It seems to me I've encountered many an old immature person steeped in tradition.
    Grow up peter pan.

    You can't stay a kid forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Grow up peter pan.

    You can't stay a kid forever.
    Is the above what a grown up person writes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Is the above what a grown up person writes?
    It's what this grown person writes.

    How's trying to be a sociology (or w/e the fuck it is your interested in) professor working out for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I believe it often is for NPs.

    There are other reasons people behave this way as well (some valid, some not).

    Certain types (and groupings) definitely seem to be more knee-jerk reaction against it, tho.
    I get the same feeling when people express strong nostalgia, at least people in my age group. I hate the term "90's kid" and get irrationally annoyed whenever people get all gleeful over their favorite Disney movies from childhood.

    However, I can talk for hours about my favorite Pokemon games and Cartoon Network shows from when I was a kid, so I'll just chalk it up to projection of inferior Si.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    It's what this grown person writes.

    How's trying to be a sociology (or w/e the fuck it is your interested in) professor working out for you?
    So far so good.

    I would have thought a mature person gives considerate analysis to topics as they arise, rather then foregoing analysis to make inane attempts to needle people.

    Would you care to explain your ideas on how tradition is functional in maturing and having a family?
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    I don't like when tradition becomes something people feel compelled to "enforce". Having always done something a certain way is a fine reason to continue doing so, as long as its impacts continue to be positive, but it is not a good reason to limit new ideas.

    But usually I appreciate tradition because it tends to contain and transmit the meaningful "heart" of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    I get the same feeling when people express strong nostalgia, at least people in my age group. I hate the term "90's kid" and get irrationally annoyed whenever people get all gleeful over their favorite Disney movies from childhood.

    However, I can talk for hours about my favorite Pokemon games and Cartoon Network shows from when I was a kid, so I'll just chalk it up to projection of inferior Si.
    Issues around the inferior always seem to be dual-sided.

    One side rejection/suppression, one side aspiration/appreciation/desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    I don't like when tradition becomes something people feel compelled to "enforce". Having always done something a certain way is a fine reason to continue doing so, as long as its impacts continue to be positive, but it is not a good reason to limit new ideas.

    But usually I appreciate tradition because it tends to contain and transmit the meaningful "heart" of things.
    Well put

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    So far so good.
    Really, I would think grad school prices would be prohibitive.

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