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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    yeah if you come off bitchy to me I'd say "go fuck yourself" and then it be an explosion. But I'd probably do it anyways. I just need to let you know that you made me angry.
    If someone was direct with you (bitchiness aside), like you say you want, why would you be angry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    If someone was direct with you, like you say you want, why would you be angry?
    it's the tone. if I feel like you're being bitchy and I feel attacked, I tend to be very reactive. Trust me the fuck yourself wouldn't have been premeditated. But after that was said I'd be fine, unless you responded back.

    and it's more about saying exactly what you mean, with out being a bitch. I want directness, I don't want bitchiness (and you can be direct without coming off like a bitch, which something I manage all the time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    it's the tone. if I feel like you're being bitchy and I feel attacked, I tend to be very reactive. Trust me the fuck yourself wouldn't have been premeditated. But after that was said I'd be fine, unless you responded back.
    Well that's fine and all for you, but if it was me I'd be thinking that's the last time I'm being direct with that person.
    and it's more about saying exactly what you mean, with out being a bitch. I want directness, I don't want bitchiness (and you can be direct without coming off like a bitch, which something I manage all the time)
    Is that before or after you go telling people to fuck off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Well that's fine and all for you, but if it was me I'd be thinking that's the last time I'm being direct with that person.


    Is that before or after you go telling people to fuck off?
    You completely missed my point.
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    Ok I guess I could try again
    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    and it's more about saying exactly what you mean, with out being a bitch. I want directness, I don't want bitchiness (and you can be direct without coming off like a bitch, which something I manage all the time)
    I think this is an unreasonable expectation to have, and it is type related, Te vs Fe communication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Ok I guess I could try again

    I think this is an unreasonable expectation to have, and it is type related, Te vs Fe communication.
    so it's unreasonable? even though I just said that it is possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    so it's unreasonable? even though I just said that it is possible?
    Hah well if you asked every Fe dom to stop being so damn emotive, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Hah well if you asked every Fe dom to stop being so damn emotive, maybe.
    I'm pretty sure there's Fe doms that manage not to be emotive. But I dunno I've not asked every Fe dom in my life if they're emotive or not
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    Being direct privileges the content over the form.

    Being direct is obsessed with the meaning and the content, and being deaf to the way the meaning and content are expressed.

    I notice this when the naive read poetry. They repetitively and peevishly ask, what does it mean, but take no notice whatsoever of the form, the shape and the sound of the poem.

    So being direct is a form of wilful deafness; being direct focuses on the literal meaning; so being direct is a form of literalism.

    And interestingly literalism privileges the eye, and disregards the other senses.

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