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    Entertaining Cracker five sounds's Avatar
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    I know typing famous people is subject to a lot of error, but it seems pretty widely believed that Twain, Jobs, and Einstein were Ne users. I really feel like Ne is what makes me work best this way.

    Furthermore, a super organized environment makes me feel weighed down (inferior Si). Just two more cents from my direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    I know typing famous people is subject to a lot of error, but it seems pretty widely believed that Twain, Jobs, and Einstein were Ne users.
    I agree that typing famous people, especially those who are deceased, is subject to a wide margin of error.
    All we have to attempt typing them are the artifacts of their personal lives, careers, academic achievements, etc, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    I really feel like Ne is what makes me work best this way.
    And this is a good thing, IMHO, because knowing what works for YOU and YOUR MIND is essential if you are ever to get a lot of good work done over the long run of time.

    If you never figure out what works for you with regard to what type of work environment best suits your mind's workflow, then you will inevitably waste countless hours each time you work tweaking whatever part of your environment is bothering you at that time.

    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    Furthermore, a super organized environment makes me feel weighed down (inferior Si). Just two more cents from my direction.
    Just out of curiosity, is the work you do most often more creative in nature? Or more methodical/administrative/etc. in nature?
    I'm curious because both types of environments ("messy" vs "neat") work for me, depending on what the nature ("creative" vs "administrative") of the work is.

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    I've found a balance between "cluttered messiness" and "creative messiness."

    The first type doesn't help my mental organization at all and makes it hard to find things; it also typically represents a mindset where I can't discard anything, so I become completely trapped in a bunch of disconnected items and details.

    With the creative messiness, there's still an organization to it and I know what's there and it's less about hoarding and more just keeping things around that I know will prove valuable.

    I've realized that if I file a lot of ideas, things out of sight eventually drop out of mind when there's a lot of "things" in play. For the book I want to start finishing again, I've dedicated my spare bedroom to being my "work room" and I'm going to be hanging maps, post-its, and other data around on all the walls. It won't be the prettiest room, but it's kind of like being inside that big star map in "Prometheus," where all that data is right there visible in front of your face and you can see it in connection with each other while standing within it all. I think it will help me.
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    What a weirdly ass-backward way of looking at it.

    Messy desk --> Creative approach
    Creative approach --> Messy desk

    I'm pretty sure its the latter if there is any real connection between the two at all. I'm imagining, and hoping this has no occasion in reality, naturally tidy people now messing up their desks in a rather silly attempt to induce creativity.

    *edit* "Individual" approach would better fit those three, actually, or independent
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    My desk looks like a bomb went off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruca View Post
    Creative approach --> Messy desk
    See, this makes more sense to me. I figure that when one needs to be creative, he can facilitate by making a huge mess out of his desk.

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    I just don't like society's expectations and sayings. I refuse to have a desk, if you make me get a desk i'm using it as firewood, and I'll make sure it's super messy before I set it on fire. take that society!
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    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruca View Post
    What a weirdly ass-backward way of looking at it.

    Messy desk --> Creative approach
    Creative approach --> Messy desk

    I'm pretty sure its the latter if there is any real connection between the two at all. I'm imagining, and hoping this has no occasion in reality, naturally tidy people now messing up their desks in a rather silly attempt to induce creativity.

    *edit* "Individual" approach would better fit those three, actually, or independent
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    What desk?

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    Falcarius desk at home is a mess but his work desk is tidy. It probably has more to do with not wanting to be embarrassed with having a messier desk than his academic colleagues, than keeping it clear to maximise efficacy.
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