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    It'd be information, a tool like any other. It could eventually reduce stigma associated with mental illness, as it may reveal that lots of people with diagnosed mental illnesses do just fine and contribute to society and all that jazz; but it would more than likely just plain be misused.

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    No. Not mandatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankyMcFly View Post
    No.

    I think it encouraging it isn't a bad starting point.

    Question: Say these "mandatory" tests reveal that X person, who happens to be functional, has Y problem, how are you going to resolve that? Will the state determine his fate? What if Y problem is only mild or a propensity for?

    NO. Talk about a slippery slope...
    Why not?
    Good result (vs. Soton)...still have to go #Arsene

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    No. I can see no benefit and a lot of possible negatives.
    Such as?
    Good result (vs. Soton)...still have to go #Arsene

    Tengo los conocimientos estardiar....no hay un motivo para estar al tanto de la reunión que sucedió hace mucho tiempo ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    No.
    Here's why:

    (1) What is the purpose of the screenings?
    (2) Who will write the assessments?
    (3) Who will evaluate them?
    (4) What will the compulsory treatment options be for people with: (a) issue "A", (b) issue "B", (c) both issues "A" and "B"?
    (5) What is the desired outcome for anyone with a confirmed issue(s) after receiving a compulsory treatment option(s)?
    (6) What are the criteria for defining recovery in (5) above?
    (7) Is recovery partial or total in remediation? If partial, who decides what level of remission has been achieved?
    (8) What are the opportunities for those with partial remission achievements of varying percentages of recovery?
    (9) How often must recovery be re-evaluated?
    (10) What if there is a relapse or new ailment of any kind for those who have been diagnosed with something, and/or undergone an approved treatment?
    (11) WHO WILL PAY?
    (12) How will the criteria for all aspects of this program be re-calibrated over time as political ideologies sway the masses?

    This conceptual program is a FAIL of the highest order, IMHO.



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    er...the psychiatric profession, based on research as with any science.
    Good result (vs. Soton)...still have to go #Arsene

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    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    er...the psychiatric profession, based on research as with any science.
    You ONLY answered question #2 - and incompletely at that.

    And as far as "based on research as with any science" - research paid for by corporations and/or government agencies is hardly without bias - and is not science, it's statistical bullshit with a marginal bit of poorly performed research on human studies, the results of which are intended to give credibility to the study, and thus the agenda (profit based, or ideologically based on policy) of the sponsors.

    Try replying line by line to my questions.



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    er.. not everybody must accommodate you. Learn some social skills whilst you at it...

    Whilst psychiatry is largely fraudulent, it does have some uses.
    Good result (vs. Soton)...still have to go #Arsene

    Tengo los conocimientos estardiar....no hay un motivo para estar al tanto de la reunión que sucedió hace mucho tiempo ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    er.. not everybody must accommodate you.
    Nice try at sidestepping the fact that you aren't capable of answering intelligently.

    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    Learn some social skills whilst you at it...
    Why don't you learn how to write while you're at it?

    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    Whilst psychiatry is largely fraudulent, it does have some uses.
    This makes no sense whatsoever; it's a completely useless statement.
    It's amusing how you can't provide a list of uses for mandatory mental health screening.

    You might want to crawl back under the bridge, for goats might cross it soon...

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    eh? you demanded i answer your questions, I don't have to. lol.. nobody HAS to do anything. You claim wisdom, so prove it.
    Good result (vs. Soton)...still have to go #Arsene

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    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    eh? you demanded i answer your questions...
    No, I asked you try answering them line by line instead of the half-assed drivel you typically reply with. You might want to learn to read one day; it might help you become a better smartass - but I doubt it.


    Quote Originally Posted by danseen
    You claim wisdom, so prove it.
    My last fart had more wisdom in it than anything you've written.

    And now you can eat your own words:

    Quote Originally Posted by danseen
    I don't have to. lol.. nobody HAS to do anything.
    You're replies are boring me. I'm going to go do something more worthwhile than bicker with you - like take a shit.
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