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    The only trait I have that makes me wonder, is that I sometimes have these fantasies of becoming some grand amazing person. I have heard narcissists can have that, though I don't know if it's as extreme for me.

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    I'm a narcisisist and I know that. It's pretty easy to tell when you have faith in yourself.

    People who act arrogant as a show of toughness aren't real narcisists; they're just throwing up shields.

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    Of course, they don't know they are narcissists...They know they're perfect!

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    I tend to focus on myself more than I'd like to sometimes. Being narcissistic is kind of a fear of mine. It freaks me out when I feel like I might be that way.
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    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    edit: as far as craving validation goes, that's just a part of life. we all want/need attention, we all want/need appreciation (and affection, allowing, acceptance, etc), often to highly varying degrees depending on our expectations from childhood, the ways we manage our emotional mood swings and overall temperament pattern, our emotional intelligence and maturity level, etc.
    Yes, this is true. Getting attention/validation is a universal human need, not something only narcissists need. It (as I understand it) reaches the point of ‘narcissism’ when the expectation/need for support becomes a sort of crutch (to ward off unconscious feelings of inferiority); other people become sources of validation instead beings who rightly need/deserve their own authentic experience of the world in turn- and that’s when we’ve reduced them to objects which exist to serve our ego. It’s coming from a place of scarcity- needing support to feel our own experience of the world is valid whilst not being able to see others’ experiences as valid in return (or rather, only seeing their experience as ‘valid’ when their experiences reflect well on us).

    But yeah, good point, it's important to remember that everyone needs/deserves the validation and support of others.
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    Delusions of grandeur. A megalomaniac thinks they, and their reasoning, are quite rational - given their "special snowflake" status.

    Exhibit A:

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    Most people with a cluster B disorder (psychopath, narcissist, borderline, histrionic) do not think they have a problem. The think other people are the problem and they are just fine.
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    If I take narcissist to specifically mean the Personality Disorder, then they kind of have to be in the dark about it.

    It reminds me of a statement someone once said to me, in earnest: "they don't hate us because we're arrogant, they hate us because they're jealous".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    If I take narcissist to specifically mean the Personality Disorder, then they kind of have to be in the dark about it.

    It reminds me of a statem

    ent someone once said to me, in earnest: "they don't hate us because we're arrogant, they hate us because they're jealous".
    So a narcissist isnt a narcissist unless that person also has delusions of grandeur and roots his reasons for being irrationally?

    Im asking because if I am not a narcissist, then I think I may have a serious problem.
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    I loosely associate Fi with narcissism, but I've always found it strange that INTJs seem vastly more narcissistic than ISTJs, despite having it on the same 'function that fascinates us the most' tert spot in the function order. Could be my working association theory is just bollocks, could be what I'm chasing isn't narcissism at all but rather something else.

    IXFPs can go either way, though usually their tremendous ability to sympathize tends to gloss over the negative aspects of it.

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