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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    no, but I am going to share what experts believe most men are aroused by.

    also, you are describing attraction holistically. yes, older women often have far more ideal personalities than younger women and will more than likely make more suitable partners for you, but I'm talking about attraction strictly in terms of sex appeal/"this gives me a boner".
    Really I think most men would equally gladly bone a 18 and a 35 yo of equal attractivness. Because while yes, the 18 yo might have less wrinkles and a better skin tone (which is what your youtube shows), 35 yo can often "carry themselves" much better and (believe it or not) they often take much more care of their bodies and, least but not least, are often much more sexually "open".
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    I don't see why not. I think that if you're forced to grow up due to circumstances you will. Most people will live up to expectations especially in times of need. If a person doesn't have to do that, why rob them of their youth? It probably helps the economy too. A bunch of young people walking around with their low income paying for their iphones etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Really I think most men would equally gladly bone a 18 and a 35 yo of equal attractivness. Because while yes, the 18 yo might have less wrinkles and a better skin tone (which is what your youtube shows)
    it's a little more complicated than that. the facial structure and position of the facial "mask" also change significantly.

    35 yo can often "carry themselves" much better and (believe it or not) they often take much more care of their bodies and, last but not least, are often much more sexually "open".
    this doesn't surprise me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    it's a little more complicated than that. the facial structure and position of the facial "mask" also change significantly.


    this doesn't surprise me
    So what's the conclusion? Older women, up to a point, make up what they lose in "facial mask" (whatever that means) with other qualities, thus the final amount of "attractivness" remains fairly stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    So what's the conclusion? Older women, up to a point, make up what they lose in "facial mask" (whatever that means) with other qualities, thus the final amount of "attractivness" remains fairly stable.
    From an aesthetic standpoint I find the distinct cheekbones and profile more regal on women in their 30's. Teenagers still have a lot of baby fat on their cheeks and so look more like little girls. If I were gay I think the preference for the beauty of women from at least age 25-35+ (depending) would translate into sexual attraction.

    For myself I was definitely most attractive from about 25-35. It would actually be kinda interesting to have people post a pic from each decade of their life and compare how individuals looked.

    One other consideration also is that while teenage girls tend to all look quite similar, after 30 women start looking a lot different from each other based on what life requires of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    no, but I am going to share what experts believe most men are aroused by.
    Plastic surgeons, who make a very good living preying on insecure people trying to look younger, claim that men are most attracted to women who look as young as possible, and that older women are hopelessly unappealing?

    I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

    Kudos for the effort. I respect stubbornness, I do. But there is a point where it becomes silly, and that point is when you're believing advertising over people who are telling you that it conflicts with their actual reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Plastic surgeons, who make a very good living preying on insecure people trying to look younger, claim that men are most attracted to women who look as young as possible, and that older women are hopelessly unappealing?
    I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
    Kudos for the effort. I respect stubbornness, I do. But there is a point where it becomes silly, and that point is when you're believing advertising over people who are telling you that it conflicts with their actual reality.
    I am believing people with related scientific backgrounds as opposed to anecdotal evidence (most of it being from women). that makes me neither stubborn nor silly (I can be quite stubborn on occasion, but this is not one of them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    Do you have a source for this? The OP makes me uncomfortable, but not rationally, just as a type A personality who is afraid of taking pressure off. I think this counterargument would be healthy for me to delve into.
    Sure! Check out the concept of "organismic development", which includes theory like Piaget's cognitive stages or Erikson's psychosocial stages. The idea is that development is coded into our genetic instructions, and we inevitably pass from stage to stage as initiated by internal mechanisms (often age) instead of by external stimuli. In general it's assumed that doing particularly well at a stage will set you up to succeed at the next stage, but there is also plenty of evidence showing that you can fail early on and still succeed later. IMO, it makes a lot of sense biologically because we know that much of physical growth is genetically coded. My suspicion is that, as with almost everything, development is affected by an interplay of genes and environment.

    From personal experience having been a super-overachiever and then taking two and a half years off to work after college to figure out what I wanted to do with my life, I can tell you that I was really worried about never finding my drive again but I did, again and again and again. The fire comes from inside and it may flicker, but it doesn't go out. Trust your inner flame.

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