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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    What do you think of this expression and face? If you recognize her please don't say anything.
    scary, like she wants to murder me and eat my corpse
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    This is attachment therapy? Seems like abuse.

    I don't often engage in such cliche, popular culture terms but...

    THE FUCK?!

    This is horrible. I agree, it looks like abuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    One more comment about "flat eyes" and expression. This is partly from personal observation over the years and partly Freudian in its concept, but people with a lot of aggression can have a tendency to overuse the muscles around the mouth. From aggression and passive-aggression based people I've interacted with I've noticed that this can result in a kind of over-enunciation and exaggeration of the mouth, or it can tighten down the mouth so it is very tense and barely moves.

    A comedic example of this is Dwight from the American version of "The Office". He overly uses the muscles around his mouth without expressing much in the eyes. It is funny, but it adds to the effect of him being overly aggressive. The adult image of the woman of this thread has that overly fired up muscles around the mouth without any expression in the eyes, so not only does it appear false, there is a hostile feeling associated with it.
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    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
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    I'm pretty sure this guy is a functioning sociopath. He doesn't seem to have the ability to feel regret, embarrassment, and has "glib, superficial charm". So how about his eyes?

    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

    I want to be just like my mother, even if she is bat-shit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    I'm pretty sure this guy is a functioning sociopath. He doesn't seem to have the ability to feel regret, embarrassment, and has "glib, superficial charm". So how about his eyes?

    not scary
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    I'm actually wondering if this could be a fun, separate thread - to post pics and ask "sociopath or not a sociopath"? Just to see the reactions. Would that be too dicey?
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

    I want to be just like my mother, even if she is bat-shit crazy.

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    I think he has scary eyes.

    Yeah, do a thread.

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    Control Through Projection is Magical Thinking

    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    What do you think of this expression and face?
    What is scary is: projection is read as the face itself.

    A sensible approach is that what is projected is ourself.

    And this equally applies to mbti. Most actually believe they can read the personalities of their friends, family, celebrities and pets, when it is plainly a projection of ourself.

    And this is deeply wilful. We want to control others through our projections.

    And control of others through projection is called magical thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    What is scary is: projection is read as the face itself.

    A sensible approach is that what is projected is ourself.

    And this equally applies to mbti. Most actually believe they can read the personalities of their friends, family, celebrities and pets, when it is plainly a projection of ourself.

    And this is deeply wilful. We want to control others through our projections.

    And control of others through projection is called magical thinking.
    I agree to an extent, but are you suggesting that this is 100% true in all cases? That this is the one driving dynamic that occurs? My impression is that this is one element in our perceptions and interactions, but there is also experience, and other elements. There is something that had to happen through experience to us, not from us, in order to even create a Self in the first place. We can't project out of nothing.

    I think that people who have actually looked into the eyes of socio/psychopaths and been violated by them could have the capacity to see it again in the eyes of another person with the same traits. People who are basing their impressions from movies with characters portrayed by actors are less likely to be able to identify this sort of thing. I don't think that posters who see cruelty in the eyes of an image are they themselves psychopaths, if that is what your post implies. I think it is more likely that there is a small percentage of posters who have encountered a small percentage of psychopaths in their lives. Yes, there could be a small percentage of posters that are themselves socio/psychopaths, but statistically the first scenario is the most likely because it is several powers of ten larger.

    As a mildly amusing observation, it is possible for people to project onto others that they are projecting, when it is the observing individual who has a stronger tendency to project. ha. That is a mental swirly, but I think I've seen it happen.

    Am I addressing your ideas at all here? I'll confess that I do not feel entirely clear on your post.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

    I want to be just like my mother, even if she is bat-shit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    I'll confess that I do not feel entirely clear on your post.
    Well, um, animism is the religious belief that inanimate objects are animate, are alive.

    This is achieved by projecting our thoughts and feeling onto inanimate objects and then believing these thoughts and feeling come from the inanimate object, and so must be alive.

    We do this to control the inanimate objects or natural phenomena. And it is called magical thinking.

    We do something similar when we try to control others by projecting a star sign or a personality. We are trying to control others with astrology or mbti. And this is also called magical thinking.

    And magical thinking mistakes the imagined for the real.

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