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    I saw something that says she's "fine" but can someone tell me what she's really exactly like as an adult? Even her eyes as a child are frightening, her eyes are horrible, dead, flat.

    Has she just learned how to fake behaving so she can move through society undetected or is she really better?

    Does anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I saw something that says she's "fine" but can someone tell me what she's really exactly like as an adult? Even her eyes as a child are frightening, her eyes are horrible, dead, flat.

    Has she just learned how to fake behaving so she can move through society undetected or is she really better?

    Does anyone know?

    Nope, but how can anyone really know unless her behaviour indicates it so. Aparently she advocates the therapy she received and is the adopted daughter of the attachment therapist... thats all i have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    OK the obvious: sociopaths are actors. They lie ruthlessly. They have utterly no conscience, they really don't give a fuck. When people try to help the sociopath and show "love" he just sees them as complete suckers that he has every right to manipulate like a chess piece. This girl knows damn well that she is gonna be locked the fuck up if she doesn't shed some damn tears in a hurry. So she does, no problemo. She'll fool these bastards, and then one day she'll be at large, and she'll be all the wiser for her experience. This is a great lesson on how to fool suckers to her.
    I tend to agree with you. Her eyes are horrible, those are the eyes of an evil adult, not of a child. I really am not sure I believe she's fine and dandy. A lot of serial killers passed off as pretty normal people in society before they decided to start killing.

    If there's one thing I don't trust, it's a sociopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    OK the obvious: sociopaths are actors. They lie ruthlessly. They have utterly no conscience, they really don't give a fuck. When people try to help the sociopath and show "love" he just sees them as complete suckers that he has every right to manipulate like a chess piece. This girl knows damn well that she is gonna be locked the fuck up if she doesn't shed some damn tears in a hurry. So she does, no problemo. She'll fool these bastards, and then one day she'll be at large, and she'll be all the wiser for her experience. This is a great lesson on how to fool suckers to her.
    That's interesting because in the current series of Hannibal the Hannibal character repeatedly comments about how enlightening, illuminating and like peaking behind the curtain his working with the police is to him, the reason being he's a killer and learning better about the police procedures for trying to detect people like him and deal with them.

    I've met people like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenOfTroy View Post
    Nope, but how can anyone really know unless her behaviour indicates it so. Aparently she advocates the therapy she received and is the adopted daughter of the attachment therapist... thats all i have.

    http://childrenintherapy.org/proponents/thomasb.html
    This woman put murderers and prostitutes in the same sentence, then proceeded to list Edgar Allen Poe along side Saddam Hussein.

    What this says to me that her grasp of ethics is still weird and way out of proportion to reality even if she's managed to internalize good and bad.

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    Its attachment disorder. There are other stories of attachment therapy working and turning lives around. I don't believe they are psychopaths. One other example of attachment therapy working is Daniel Solomon, whose story you can listen to here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    This woman put murderers and prostitutes in the same sentence, then proceeded to list Edgar Allen Poe along side Saddam Hussein.

    What this says to me that her grasp of ethics is still weird and way out of proportion to reality even if she's managed to internalize good and bad.
    Yah but she does go on to differentiate, i think the point she was making there may have been one of how abuse/psychology manifests. I don't think she meant that prostitutes are 'bad', but i don't say this with certainty. The other part is from an unfinished sentance so i'm not sure where she was going with it. The dvd itself would be interesting as the quotes are from speech and therefore more difficult to translate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    This woman put murderers and prostitutes in the same sentence, then proceeded to list Edgar Allen Poe along side Saddam Hussein.

    What this says to me that her grasp of ethics is still weird and way out of proportion to reality even if she's managed to internalize good and bad.
    Ah... So what if she were an Aryan supremecist instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenOfTroy View Post
    Yah but she does go on to differentiate, i think the point she was making there may have been one of how abuse/psychology manifests. I don't think she meant that prostitutes are 'bad', but i don't say this with certainty. The other part is from an unfinished sentance so i'm not sure where she was going with it. The dvd itself would be interesting as the quotes are from speech and therefore more difficult to translate.
    She is listing people like Jeffrey Dahmer...then says Edgar Allen Poe (???) Sadaam Hussein...because people who write horror stories are just like dictators and serial killers...she has no real authentic sense of ethics. She has a black and white conception of 'good' and 'bad'...it's really weird, it seems sociopathic, like they learn what other people have told them is wrong and right without actually knowing what it means.

    That is my point.

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    Oddly, I recently read an article about how some researcher (do not recall the name) who believed that actually sociopathy and actual sadism rarely overlapped, due to a sociopath's difficulty comprehending pain.
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